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cole: Game sent. I'm starting to like GOG more and more. It was a little hard at first. I didn't grow up playing theses games. I grew up on console games. I had to take a small step back. Sacrifice and Fallout 1 & 2 sucked me in though. I really like the way GOG works. Great prices, good service, great community.

I'm glad you like it, and I really appreciate the game. I agree, it can be tough sometimes trying to get into the older games, but they tend to be more rewarding, at least in my opinion, than most newer games. I started using GOG to replay games that I had experienced in the past, but now my scope has expanded and I'm able to enjoy fantastic games that I had missed until now.
Cole, be sure you research any game purchase you're considering before you pull the trigger. DRM can be a royal pain in the backside and since I was burned by it a while back I make it a habit of researching exactly what copy protection/DRM schemes are used before I buy. It's unfortunate, since it means I no longer pick up games on a whim. But I refuse to buy retail games that require on-line authentication and activation. It means I've passed on some titles I was really interested in, but that's the way the turkey tumbles. I won't have my money give tacit approval to those kinds of DRM schemes.
Thanks to everyone who posted. I'm now enlightened, and a little bit pissed off. Oh well, I guess ignorance is bliss.
Post edited September 12, 2009 by cole
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Gamerkought: Actually, Demigod is in fact, one of the few games that is DRM free.

It limits installs across separate computers, though. It's reasonable (though detrimental to LAN play, if I recall the exact system used) and understandable, but it is inaccurate for anyone (including Stardock, as they have) to say it is DRM free.
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cole: Thanks to everyone who posted. I'm now enlightened, and a little bit pissed off. Oh well, I guess ignorance is bliss.

Until you get screwed by DRM. ;)
Being knowledgeable and fighting that stuff will help more of us become aware AND blissful. It's not all bad news, dude...lots of companies have come around to different degrees, and some even patch the DRM out of their games after a few months or a year or two of a game's release.
PS. Belated welcome to GOG. Glad you like it here. I grew up on console games too, but rest assured there's lots here to love.
:)
Post edited September 12, 2009 by chautemoc
Fun fact: even copy protection that isn't linked to online activations or anything like that can still kick you around.
When I bought Neverwinter Nights 2, I couldn't play it. No matter what I did, SecuROM would only recognize the CD in the drive about half the time, which quickly dropped to 0% of the time. It took me at least a week to get it working consistently. Meanwhile, everyone who had downloaded the game illegally and cracked it was happily playing with no problem.
Post edited September 12, 2009 by Mentalepsy
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Mentalepsy: Fun fact: even copy protection that isn't linked to online activations or anything like that can still kick you around.
When I bought Neverwinter Nights 2, I couldn't play it. No matter what I did, SecuROM would only recognize the CD in the drive about half the time, which quickly dropped to 0% of the time. It took me at least a week to get it working consistently. Meanwhile, everyone who had downloaded the game illegally and cracked it was happily playing with no problem.

Another example in Beyond Good and Evil, and the reason I bought it here as well. The copy protection scheme refused to work on 64-bit Vista (that's what I had at the time), so when it tried to do some checking at the end of the install, it promptly decided to remove everything it had copied.
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Mentalepsy: Fun fact: even copy protection that isn't linked to online activations or anything like that can still kick you around.
When I bought Neverwinter Nights 2, I couldn't play it. No matter what I did, SecuROM would only recognize the CD in the drive about half the time, which quickly dropped to 0% of the time. It took me at least a week to get it working consistently. Meanwhile, everyone who had downloaded the game illegally and cracked it was happily playing with no problem.

I would have obtained a "copy" and played the game if I were in the same situation. Kinds of reminds me of my legit copy of Fallout 3 which beth refuses to make patches for.
Cole, if you're planning on buying primarily retail, you may want to look into no_cd/no_dvd "cracks/fixes/patches" or whatever people want to call them. While their legality is suspect; they sure do make retail (media) based gaming far less annoying. Like their name suggests, these modified exes will enable you to rid yourself of the need to insert the game media into your dvd drive every time you want to play your games (thus giving you one of the major benefits of digital distribution).
If the game relies on online activation, some of these no_cd/no_dvd patches can rid you of that dependancy too in the event that you need such dependancy removed (a lot of online activated games don't need the media in the drive as you play mind).
Whenever I purchase a game via retail, the first thing I do is always apply a no_cd/no_dvd fix so that I don't need to worry about the media. I've certainly never had any problems with DRM in those cases (in fact, in the case of the original FEAR games, applying the no_dvd fix was required to even get the game running properly on my current system).
However, I would advise you virus check any and all no_cd/no_dvd fixes you obtain just to be on the safe side.
Post edited September 12, 2009 by bansama
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bansama: Cole, if you're planning on buying primarily retail, you may want to look into no_cd/no_dvd "cracks/fixes/patches" or whatever people want to call them.

One problem I've found with using those is patching. Patches usually replace the game's exe file. Meaning that you have to obtain a nodvd for the current patch if you want a bug free game. Those are far less common than nodvds for retail versions.
It depends on the game and the people making the noDVDs. Neverwinter Nights was regularly updated and it only took a week or 2 for the new NoCD to come out.
Yeah you missed the update for a while but it was that or use the disc. In my case I didn't have the option to use the disc since my play disc had been cheaply made, the poorly reenforced hub developed spider cracks that are about 2mm from the foil of the disc
Let's face it; most of us are here on GOG because we grow tired of all the hoops, third party software without knowledge or consent on computers, and generally the way companies treat honest customers with restrictive DRM that only legitimate buyers have to deal with.
As outrageous as it sounds DRM is only restrictive to those that buy the game, no one else.
I have stopped buying all games that have DRM associated with it; new or old and only buy games I know that are DRM free.
So far this means only games from GOG, Positech Games, and a rare few newer games.
The more people voice their displeasure politely but firmly and stop buying DRM laden games the sooner companies will get the financial message that customers matter.
Never had a problem with no_cd/no_dvd fixes and official patches myself. It may be a little harder to track one down that will work (such as was the case for Alpha Centuri and the expansion pack) but with recently released games, I've pretty much always managed to find a fix that works with the latest patch.
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Tserge: Kinds of reminds me of my legit copy of Fallout 3 which beth refuses to make patches for.

Not sure what you're getting at here, but there are several patches for Fallout3.
If you're having trouble with the game launching due to SecuROM, you can launch it directly with the Fallout3.exe instead of the launcher. No SecuROM on that file and you can play without the disc.
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Tserge: Kinds of reminds me of my legit copy of Fallout 3 which beth refuses to make patches for.
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Coelocanth: Not sure what you're getting at here, but there are several patches for Fallout3.
If you're having trouble with the game launching due to SecuROM, you can launch it directly with the Fallout3.exe instead of the launcher. No SecuROM on that file and you can play without the disc.

And fixing like only few bugs with every release. Have you seen the changelog of the unofficial patches?
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Coelocanth: Not sure what you're getting at here, but there are several patches for Fallout3.
If you're having trouble with the game launching due to SecuROM, you can launch it directly with the Fallout3.exe instead of the launcher. No SecuROM on that file and you can play without the disc.
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KavazovAngel: And fixing like only few bugs with every release. Have you seen the changelog of the unofficial patches?

Unofficial patches? No, I haven't. I was just confused by you saying they refuse to patch the game when they've put out 6 or 7 patches to date. I wasn't sure if you were aware of that or not.
Now, whether or not they've fixed issues that are affecting you is a completely different matter. If the patches they've put out aren't fixing your problems, I can understand why you're pissed about it. But that's a far different thing than saying they refuse to make patches for the game.