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anomaly: I was always of the opinion that Oblivion went the Mr Potato Head route because the faces and bodies in Morrowind were so narrow.
A good portion of them are elves... Or maybe the POV is set too high?
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Thread opener thread opener, what did you do to me??? I now badly NEED to go dig up that Morrowind Goty box, install, and sink in it again! You "burnt" me!!! Sheesh!

*Fizzle* *Sizzle*
I already succumbed last night! Obviously quite virulent!
I'm also in mood to buy Morrowind now. But have to postpone it till summer sale since my steam wallet isn't properly filled. Steam badges aren't sold well :)
Lucky for me, that openmw didn't reached 1.0 milestone yet ^^
Keep in mind, most of what I write here are highly subjective opinions. Morrowind has its faults, but the world is much richer and more enjoyable to explore. There is just more...everything...more items, more skills, more spells, more variety. I feel that every iteration of the Elder Scrolls games have been "dumbed down." Objectively, there is simply less of everything. That being said, a lot of people believe what was removed was unnecessary filler..."streamlined" instead of "dumbed down." While I disagree, this is a perfectly valid view of the situation.

The combat is the same, which is to say floaty and dull with no real feeling of impact, but this is a "feature" of all Elder Scrolls games. I personally find the magic system in Morrowind far more useful than in the later games and Skyrim removed the ability to craft spells...a major negative. Morrowind also has no major annoyances (Ok...maybe Cliffracers) like Oblivion Gates and Dragons. Yep, I said dragons. Dragons in Skyrim are not neat, they are not fun...they are just an omnipresent pain in the arse.

Guilds, factions, and Houses in Morrowind have much more logical and enjoyable progression systems and offer more content overall. However, I do admit that though shorter and less realistic, faction progression / storylines are a bit more interesting and cohesive in Skyrim. The bottom line for me is that only Morrowind makes me feel like the choices I make actually matter. Many may disagree, but I find the world of Skyrim stale and static and believe me, the inclusion of a random fetch quest generator doesn't help.

Now the bad. In Morrowind you will be reading...a lot. Voice acting is not a thing in Morrowind and though interesting, there is enough text to make your eyes bleed. Additionally, the text may be interesting, but it's no Planescape: Torment. That game I will gladly read until my eyes fall out. Morrowind...not so much. Also, there are no floating or map quest markers in Morrowind and NPC directions can be...sketchy. Getting to the objectives of your quests can be problematic, a fact compounded by tripping over a slew of side quests along the way.

The bottom line is that I simply had more fun playing Morrowind than any of the other games. Take from that what you will, as I am kind of over open world games in general. The truth is that The Elder Scrolls series is at best stagnant and at worst regressing. Even when I was playing and enjoying them, I found them highly overrated by the gaming press. As games, these are better walking simulators than RPGs. There is nothing wrong with a good walking simulator, and I still love exploring the beautifully rendered world featured in these games, but on the whole the systems of the games are simply broken and / or uninteresting.
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Thread opener thread opener, what did you do to me??? I now badly NEED to go dig up that Morrowind Goty box, install, and sink in it again! [...]
Yeah, I know how you feel. I now kind of want to fire up Daggerfall again (not a problem, as it's been installed and staring at me from my desktop for months). Still, I think I'd be over it again after half an hour of play -- or a crash or two, whichever came first.
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HunchBluntley: Yeah, I know how you feel. I now kind of want to fire up Daggerfall again
Did that yesterday.

I bloody hate these topics!
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StingingVelvet: Morrowind has the best world, best writing and best lore.

Skyrim has the best combat, best graphics and best stealth/archery by far.

Oblivion has the best... uh... hmm...
Oblivion benefits from mods the most. :-)

(On a more serious note: one of the few things I liked about Oblivion was the possibility to use FaceGen to make a face you liked and then import it into the game. And FaceGen could use portraits to make a 3D model. The feeling of travelling to hell(Oblivion) while wearing the face of Vlad Tepes, m-m-m!)
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StingingVelvet: Morrowind has the best world, best writing and best lore.

Skyrim has the best combat, best graphics and best stealth/archery by far.

Oblivion has the best... uh... hmm...
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Sanjuro: Oblivion benefits from mods the most. :-)

(On a more serious note: one of the few things I liked about Oblivion was the possibility to use FaceGen to make a face you liked and then import it into the game. And FaceGen could use portraits to make a 3D model. The feeling of travelling to hell(Oblivion) while wearing the face of Vlad Tepes, m-m-m!)
The characters were all around better looking in Oblivion period, be it imported, from the game, or NPC. As much as I give Oblivion shit, it is VERY beautiful.
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snowkatt: yes i like to be
i loath morrowind i gave it ample oppertunity but i usually end up getting bored or horrified by the rat muntant that are the npc's and go back to oblivion

but not burninanting ?!
i dont punch i burn or stab !
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Crewdroog: yeah, no burninanting. However, I may have to get you some destruction spells, as I am starting to get my ass handed to me by the Drauger (sp?) Lords.
you mean I am getting MY ass haded by a lord bastard
slit the bastards gizzard !
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StingingVelvet: Morrowind has the best world, best writing and best lore.

Skyrim has the best combat, best graphics and best stealth/archery by far.

Oblivion has the best... uh... hmm...
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Sanjuro: Oblivion benefits from mods the most. :-)

(On a more serious note: one of the few things I liked about Oblivion was the possibility to use FaceGen to make a face you liked and then import it into the game. And FaceGen could use portraits to make a 3D model. The feeling of travelling to hell(Oblivion) while wearing the face of Vlad Tepes, m-m-m!)
yes
all kidding aside a fully modded oblivion that works and isnt about to fall apart at the seams is a thing of beauty
there are so many mods that transform the game its amazing

i have nearly 50 gig worth of mods on dvd's
and i generally install around 20 to 30 gig
Post edited December 23, 2014 by snowkatt
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tinyE: The characters were all around better looking in Oblivion period, be it imported, from the game, or NPC. As much as I give Oblivion shit, it is VERY beautiful.
I have no opinion on the matter. I'm not the only one either.
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snowkatt: i have nearly 50 gig worth of mods on dvd's
and i generally install around 20 to 30 gig
Now I know why you need Blue-ray discs to keep backups.
And let me tell you, that's some impressive modding here.
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tinyE: The characters were all around better looking in Oblivion period, be it imported, from the game, or NPC. As much as I give Oblivion shit, it is VERY beautiful.
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Sanjuro: I have no opinion on the matter. I'm not the only one either.
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snowkatt: i have nearly 50 gig worth of mods on dvd's
and i generally install around 20 to 30 gig
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Sanjuro: Now I know why you need Blue-ray discs to keep backups.
And let me tell you, that's some impressive modding here.
..heh
well i have a lot of mods for oblivion fallout 3 nv sims 2 vampire bloodlines
and more

not too mention audio files all my ripped cd's are another 40 gig
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snowkatt: ..heh
well i have a lot of mods for oblivion fallout 3 nv sims 2 vampire bloodlines
and more

not too mention audio files all my ripped cd's are another 40 gig
My appetite for modding is by far more humble. I usually changed all the music in Morrowind (fancy walking through the barren ashstorm-swept plains to this song. Or battling a mighty daedroth to this. It changed the general feel of the game but I liked it.), the faces (never bothered with a more general graphic overhaul... yet ;-)).
For Bloodlines I went with that unofficial patch that let you keep the ghoul (among other things) and the one that let it run on a x64 OS.
Never tried modding New Vegas and, shameful as it is, I have to confess I never played Sims 2.
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snowkatt: ..heh
well i have a lot of mods for oblivion fallout 3 nv sims 2 vampire bloodlines
and more

not too mention audio files all my ripped cd's are another 40 gig
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Sanjuro: My appetite for modding is by far more humble. I usually changed all the music in Morrowind (fancy walking through the barren ashstorm-swept plains to this song. Or battling a mighty daedroth to this. It changed the general feel of the game but I liked it.), the faces (never bothered with a more general graphic overhaul... yet ;-)).
For Bloodlines I went with that unofficial patch that let you keep the ghoul (among other things) and the one that let it run on a x64 OS.
Never tried modding New Vegas and, shameful as it is, I have to confess I never played Sims 2.
i love the sims 2
i have the ultimate edition on origin as well as almost all expansion packs
and its so moddable there are so many mods for it as well as easy to install

unpack drag to my document>ea games >sims 2 >downloads and thats it

for fallout 3 and nv i tend to use a custom radio station because hearing the same damn 50's songs over and over drive me crazy

for bloodline si mainly use smaller tweaks and skins
but even then its going up to 4 gig in mods as well as wa5p's unofficial mod
That's why people say morrowind is the best "elder scrolls" game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wujJnlsJh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0jiOpD-AQ

and they are right.
im just gonan leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEI4yS7sFEw