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It seems that Pacific Rim will end up as financial flop. Maybe now Hollywood focus less on SF movies that are PG-13 and more on serious themes.
Watched it at an IMAX, it was a fun movie.

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Aver: It seems that Pacific Rim will end up as financial flop. Maybe now Hollywood focus less on SF movies that are PG-13 and more on serious themes.
Yup - sex / nudity, and gore are what make a great movie.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by kalirion
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kalirion: Watched it at an IMAX, it was a fun movie.

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Aver: It seems that Pacific Rim will end up as financial flop. Maybe now Hollywood focus less on SF movies that are PG-13 and more on serious themes.
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kalirion: Yup - sex / nudity, and gore are what make a great movie.
I don't know about you, but I miss movies like Aliens. Grim, dark SF. For me Hollywood is becoming ridiculous with their censoring - have you seen World War Z? Movie about zombies without a single drop of blood. There are blood stains, but that's it. It just feels wrong.

I don't have anything against Pacific Rim, it might be a good movie. I just don't like such movies.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by Aver
Because god forbid there are movies viewable by younger audiences that are fun and will get them excited about the genre.

Pacific Rim was a blast. Hackneyed script, wooden acting, archetypal characters, and awesome battles between giant mechs and monsters. An EXCELLENT modern interpretation of the classic Kaiju films. If you are disappointed with it then you went in with the wrong expectations, this was never going to be anything but a big budget B movie and it excelled in it's aim.

It was everything I expected and hoped for.
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hkabik: Because god forbid there are movies viewable by younger audiences that are fun and will get them excited about the genre.
It's not the problem that there are such movies viewable by younger audiences. Problem is that nowadays there are no such movies that are non-viewable by younger audience. Battle for Los Angeles, Cloverfield, Oblivion, After Earth, World War Z, Battleship (and more) are PG-13. Last SF movie that I have seen and was rated R was District 9. I'm not saying that movie that is rated PG-13 is immediately bad or anything like that, but they are restricted to themes that are proper for kids. Sometimes I want to see other themes too.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by Aver
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kalirion: Watched it at an IMAX, it was a fun movie.

Yup - sex / nudity, and gore are what make a great movie.
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Aver: I don't know about you, but I miss movies like Aliens. Grim, dark SF. For me Hollywood is becoming ridiculous with their censoring - have you seen World War Z? Movie about zombies without a single drop of blood. There are blood stains, but that's it. It just feels wrong.

I don't have anything against Pacific Rim, it might be a good movie. I just don't like such movies.
Pacific Rim never meant to be an Aliens style horror movie. It's Godzilla meets Independence Day, or something like that, but done well.
Post edited July 23, 2013 by kalirion
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Aver: I don't know about you, but I miss movies like Aliens. Grim, dark SF. For me Hollywood is becoming ridiculous with their censoring - have you seen World War Z? Movie about zombies without a single drop of blood. There are blood stains, but that's it. It just feels wrong.

I don't have anything against Pacific Rim, it might be a good movie. I just don't like such movies.
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kalirion: Pacific Rim never meant to be an Aliens style horror movie. It's Godzilla meets Independence Day, or something like that, but done well.
And where I said that it supposed to be like Aliens? I just said that there are way too many SF movies like that in comparison to serious ones that I prefer.
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kalirion: Pacific Rim never meant to be an Aliens style horror movie. It's Godzilla meets Independence Day, or something like that, but done well.
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Aver: And where I said that it supposed to be like Aliens? I just said that there are way too many SF movies like that in comparison to serious ones that I prefer.
Unfortunately studios know where they make their money. Families of 4+ spending a hundred+ on the movie tickets+refreshments. I miss the good old days of good adult themed movies. I'm sick of seeing the bratty know-it-all kid with stupid parents in every freaking movie.
I've started boycotting all these movies, well not boycotting but waiting until I can get them for $1 at redbox. I'm not giving the movie studios more than that for this shit they are producing now.
Saw it today. I paid 14.50€ (19.26 USD) for the 3D show, does that sound a lot? I decided to go to see it as my gf wanted to go out with her friend for little shopping, so what a better way to spend the time waiting for them?

3D didn't offer much for the movie, which I think is positive. So the movie could just as well be watched in 2D theaters.

The mechs were big and majestetic, which was nice.

Action sequences were too "busy", sometimes it was a bit hard to tell what was happening on the screen. The big aliens always screamed first at the robot, then they roll together through buildings and such, lots of explosions etc. Who is winning now? Oh, the robot is now missing an arm, but I bet he will win anyway with one arm.

As expected, the story and drama were ultra-classic. All story elements were borrowed from e.g. Top Gun, Independence Day etc. etc. etc., you could easily tell beforehand who would die and who not, and so on and so forth:

An antagonist hotshot pilot who first hates the protagonist and doesn't trust him, but later learns to respect him? Check.

The protagonist(s) making some mistake and being put on the side while others go save the world, but suddenly becoming humanity's only shot? Check.

Someone sacrificing his life to help his fellow soldiers? Check.

It takes one decisive blow to a critical weak point to foil all alien plans? Check.

I dunno, I wasn't expecting more from it, but I was still being kinda hopeful. In vain. I guess they always have to make big compromises for AAA blockbuster movies so that as many as possible would go to see it, and also as the movie was rated here to be suitable for 12 years old kids.

I guess the best movies are the ones who inconveniently mix genres or story items, like Robocop was just not a movie about a robot cop which gets the bad guys, or Alien was not just a space movie where humans fight bad aliens (but rather a horror movie in space).

That reminds me: is it so that nowadays the movie studios don't make straight movie license games anymore, as in "Pacific Rim: The Game" where you'd basically play the movie's story through? That used to be quite normal in the old days, every blockbuster movie got a movie tie-in game.

In a way that's a good thing, I rather see games being developed independently on their own, and not just some kind of extension to movies. At worst, we get games which are placed in some movie's universe (like Star Wars), but not related directly to any particular movie. Or am I just missing them?
Post edited August 04, 2013 by timppu
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Aver: I don't know about you, but I miss movies like Aliens. Grim, dark SF. For me Hollywood is becoming ridiculous with their censoring - have you seen World War Z? Movie about zombies without a single drop of blood. There are blood stains, but that's it. It just feels wrong.

I don't have anything against Pacific Rim, it might be a good movie. I just don't like such movies.
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kalirion: Pacific Rim never meant to be an Aliens style horror movie. It's Godzilla meets Independence Day, or something like that, but done well.
The problem is there needs to be more Aliens style movies but so far, since Alien 3, no such movie has been made.
Post edited August 04, 2013 by langurmonkey
OT picked up GI Joe Retaliation on DVD yesterday. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
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tinyE: OT picked up GI Joe Retaliation on DVD yesterday. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
I liked the first GI Joe movie quite a lot, much more than I expected. I don't know why it clicked so well with me. At least I liked all the tension and mystery between the white and black ninjas, but other parts were also quite entertaining.

I saw Retaliation on the airplane, and I found it much less interesting and engaging overall. Boring, even. Too bad, maybe I should rewatch the first one.

Is it only me, or why do I seem to dislike movies where "The Rock" shows himself, like in this GI Joe sequel? I recall I used to like him in the movies, but nowadays he rubs we the wrong way for some reason. Maybe he is too similar in his movies, all the same mannerism etc. A bit like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but not as dumb or with a funny accent.
Post edited August 04, 2013 by timppu
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timppu: Action sequences were too "busy", sometimes it was a bit hard to tell what was happening on the screen. The big aliens always screamed first at the robot, then they roll together through buildings and such, lots of explosions etc. Who is winning now? Oh, the robot is now missing an arm, but I bet he will win anyway with one arm.
I wonder if that was a consequence of the 3D? I saw it in 2D and thought that the action was nicely clear and understandable.
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timppu: Action sequences were too "busy", sometimes it was a bit hard to tell what was happening on the screen. The big aliens always screamed first at the robot, then they roll together through buildings and such, lots of explosions etc. Who is winning now? Oh, the robot is now missing an arm, but I bet he will win anyway with one arm.
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Azilut: I wonder if that was a consequence of the 3D? I saw it in 2D and thought that the action was nicely clear and understandable.
Could be, albeit otherwise I had no problem with the 3D effects. They were not that profound in the movie anyway.
Post edited August 04, 2013 by timppu
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kalirion: Pacific Rim never meant to be an Aliens style horror movie. It's Godzilla meets Independence Day, or something like that, but done well.
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langurmonkey: The problem is there needs to be more Aliens style movies but so far, since Alien 3, no such movie has been made.
Pitch Black?