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Navagon: How will the death of GFWL affect existing GFWL games? For instance, will I be able to play Arkham Asylum / City without some god awful client getting in the way and fucking with my save games?
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kavazovangel: From what I've seen, devs will most likely have to port their games to use the new XBOX LIVE APIs. I am not 100%, but I think GfWL titles will require the damn client until they are ported to use the new APIs.

Porting the games to use XBOX LIVE will finally help users get rid of the client. It shouldn't be much of a problem, since some / most of the APIs are the same, but I doubt many, if any, current games will be ported.

(It would be a great thing for everyone, and those blocked from GfWL will finally be able to play those games properly.)
Now that I think about it, why didn't Microsoft just do this in the first place? XBox Live has been a well-established brand for almost a decade now. It's just as well known as Steam. Why did MS try to launch a totally different brand with a totally different API platform?
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Titanium: This video isn't available in your region.
Oh, I see you found Youtube and wanted to watch a funny ad. Unfortunately you can't view this Sony ad because it contains music from Sony!

I do not make this up!
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OfferVoidInNebraska
(at the bottom at The Internet)
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StingingVelvet: Germany is insane about that shit. I guess with reason, but still, insane.
I think it is just an act, "oh we are sooo sorry what our grandfathers did to all of you...", crocodile tears. In reality they are building an atomic bomb and a fleet of space ships in their secret moon base.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by timppu
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Navagon: It says bad things about Microsoft, sure. But I don't think it's a racial thing. Look at that list from the standpoint of economy and respect for copyright and the list of notable absences decreases significantly.
If I look from a standpoint of economy and respect for copyright, then
a) omnicide is the solution to get everything into the public domain in less than 71 years. Sadly, nobody will be able to enjoy it anymore...
b) there is no reason to limit digital distribution to certain countries
c) Youtube, GFWL etc. do not want people to enjoy cultural goods in certain nations, and therefore violate the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, articles 19, 27 and 28.
For example:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
(my emphasis: it does not say "people of certain nations have no right to receive information and ideas because they belong to a nation that other people deem unworthy")

If I don't have respect for copyright, on the other hand, I will restrict certain countries so they are forced to pirate it.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by Protoss
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Protoss: They are not allowing Israeli citizens to play Age of Empires Online.

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2622131
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Were you recently kicked in the head or something? Seriously, your posts over the past week...pretty special.
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Crassmaster: ...

Were you recently kicked in the head or something? Seriously, your posts over the past week...pretty special.
Heh, this has nothing to do with the shit I wrote past week.

I just think people should not be left out of things because of their religion.
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Crassmaster: ...

Were you recently kicked in the head or something? Seriously, your posts over the past week...pretty special.
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Protoss: Heh, this has nothing to do with the shit I wrote past week.

I just think people should not be left out of things because of their religion.
Wat. Have you read this thread at all? This has nothing to do with religion or antisemitism. More than half the world is excluded from GFWL.
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Protoss: I just think people should not be left out of things because of their religion.
:facepalm:

now you're confusing nationality, ethnicity and religion, all in the same thread!

i think your posts made more sense when you were drunk...
Any digital service hosted by Microsoft is limited by the US laws regarding exportations, too. There are still a lot of countries under varying US restrictions like Iran, Cuba, Syria, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, Myanmar, Liberia, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Balkans, Cote D'Ivoire, China, Canada, Germany, India, Israel, Pakistan, Russia, Egypt, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Kuwait, Lebanon, Singapore, South Korea, United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, Afghanistan, Belarus, Cyprus, Eritrea, Sierra Leone, Vietnam, Haiti, Rwanda, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Yemen, Venezuela, Democratic Republic of the Congo... (straight from the US Export Controls page)

For some, it's only restrictions on military material, but technological stuff tends to be frowned upon too (if I remember well, ammunition exportation laws covered encryption too...).

Of course, it isn't a good excuse for the awful overpriced service provided anywhere but the USA.
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Crassmaster: ...

Were you recently kicked in the head or something? Seriously, your posts over the past week...pretty special.
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Protoss: Heh, this has nothing to do with the shit I wrote past week.

I just think people should not be left out of things because of their religion.
...it has nothing to do with religion.
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doccarnby: They're also apparently anti-Mongolia, anti-Turkey, anti-most of Eastern Europe, anti-Luxembourg, anti-all of Africa except South Africa, anti-Argentina, and anti-Cuba as well.

Edit: Also anti-Iceland, China, Kazakhstan, aaaaand North Korea.
I like how Greenland is supported. Apparently they are not anti-greenlandish.
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Protoss: I just think people should not be left out of things because of their religion.
GFWL isn't available in many Middle Eastern countries and African countries, so what about Islam, Baha'i, Christianity, Animism and Zoroastrianism, amongst other religions ?

Congratulations on your increasingly tendentious posts.
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doccarnby: They're also apparently anti-Mongolia, anti-Turkey, anti-most of Eastern Europe, anti-Luxembourg, anti-all of Africa except South Africa, anti-Argentina, and anti-Cuba as well.

Edit: Also anti-Iceland, China, Kazakhstan, aaaaand North Korea.
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Vitek: I like how Greenland is supported. Apparently they are not anti-greenlandish.
Well, Greenland is technically part of Denmark, and GFWL is supported in Denmark.
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michaelleung: Well, Greenland is technically part of Denmark, and GFWL is supported in Denmark.
Still it's nice of them to think of those poor Greenlandians who couldn't live without that gem.
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michaelleung: Well, Greenland is technically part of Denmark, and GFWL is supported in Denmark.
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Vitek: Still it's nice of them to think of those poor Greenlandians who couldn't live without that gem.
I like to think of all those Greenlanders in tiny huts playing PC games. Yes, I know they don't live in huts, but whatever.