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Posted March 28, 2012
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SimonG: We have illegal signs, but not words. This oes more in the vein of "state protection" than minority protection. If you show the swatzika flag you are denouncing the german state (among other things). I think "flag burning" would be the equvialent in the US (Is that actually illegal?).
Legal, some Conservatives just keep trying to make it illegal and look like jackasses.

As far as I know anyway... *looks around suspiciously*...

Anyway, I was told all throughout college you had illegal words, but I guess you would know, so never mind.
Posted March 28, 2012
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doccarnby: Roman, if we applied that logic then Microsoft would be anti-everyone.
Hostis humani generi . Sounds well...
Posted March 28, 2012
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StingingVelvet: Anyway, I was told all throughout college you had illegal words, but I guess you would know, so never mind.
Well, I guess you can't call a bar "Reichsicherheitshauptamt", and you won't find a "Hitler Street" in Germany. I guess you could call that "illegal words". But I guess calling a shooting range in the US "Kill some N****" isn't excactly legal either.
Post edited March 28, 2012 by SimonG
Posted March 28, 2012
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Roman5: They are also Anti-Russian as well

Even if XBOX Live is currently available in the RF (Which was launched November 2010) as well as GFWL, both absolutely terrible in every way, tons of games missing, absurd and ridiculous prices, missing features and other many other things
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doccarnby: Roman, if we applied that logic then Microsoft would be anti-everyone.
Touche

In all seriousness though, the US has it very easy compared to other regions

To Microsoft, the ONLY country that exists to them is the USA, if you are from Western Europe prepare to lose tons of features and priviledges and I'm not even talking about the rest of the world: If you are from another part of the world - you can eat shit because Microsoft does not acknowledge your existence

Sadly, and very unfortunately, that seems to be the main attitude and mindset of many Companies/Publishers/Developers today
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Posted March 28, 2012
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SimonG: Well, I guess you can't call a bar "Reichsicherheitshauptamt", and you won't find a "Hitler Street" in Germany. I guess you could call that "illegal words". But I guess calling a shooting range in the US "Kill some N****" isn't excactly legal either.
It is actually.

But I take your point.
Posted March 28, 2012
At least MS have a reasonable reason why, what with their service not established in all regions. Perfect World on the other hand, don't. And they just block any old country --- without warning or explanation at any time.

Rusty Hearts for example, was suddenly blocked in Japan because the Korean rights owners didn't want Japanese having access to the English language version, instructing Japanese players to play the Korean version from the Korean site. Naturally, that site is IP blocked in Japan, so they game cannot be played at all.

PW also do the same with Star Trek Online in some regions apparently, without any reasonable explanation.
Posted March 28, 2012
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cjrgreen: This is a longstanding sore point. Microsoft Israel promised access to Live all the way back in 2006. It has never happened. Nobody is offering any kind of explanation.

Whatever the reason, it's commercially brain-dead. Israel is, per capita, the biggest Internet consumer in the world. There is no monopoly, censorship, or other regulation that would impede the operation of Live. Microsoft has a huge R&D facility in Israel, so it's not like the company could possibly be ignorant of the commercial and Internet conditions in the country.
Hey I really just don't get it either. Whatever the hurdle is it could easily be overcome, I'm sure. But to be honest I'm not under the impression that MS are really all that fussed about expanding. They've been losing ground since the 90s and Apple's current dominance of... everything just goes to prove just how stagnant MS is now.
Posted March 28, 2012
Are they also anti-Catholic? Looking at the map, it looks like the Pope can't get his game on.
Posted March 28, 2012
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Roman5: In all seriousness though, the US has it very easy compared to other regions

To Microsoft, the ONLY country that exists to them is the USA, if you are from Western Europe prepare to lose tons of features and priviledges and I'm not even talking about the rest of the world: If you are from another part of the world - you can eat shit because Microsoft does not acknowledge your existence

Sadly, and very unfortunately, that seems to be the main attitude and mindset of many Companies/Publishers/Developers today
Those are actually legal reasons that are beyond MS abilities. Comparable to why Amazon has many services only in the US.

Do you honestly consider companies avoid tasty markets like europe because they sit at their big ass tables, light their cigars with 100$ bills and laugh at the rest of the world?
Posted March 28, 2012
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Navagon: Countries that are supported by Live are very small in number and are the exception rather than the rule. It's reason #864 of the series: Why GFWL is Fucking Awful.
Damn, that many. I thought there were only 729.

It won't be long though, should die 'officially' with the release of Windows 8.
Posted March 28, 2012
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kavazovangel: Damn, that many. I thought there were only 729.

It won't be long though, should die 'officially' with the release of Windows 8.
There are over 9000 reasons. But the regional restrictions represent a particularly important one.

How will the death of GFWL affect existing GFWL games? For instance, will I be able to play Arkham Asylum / City without some god awful client getting in the way and fucking with my save games?
Posted March 28, 2012
".... antisemitic now?"

Posts like this are anti-sensible.
Posted March 28, 2012
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Navagon: How will the death of GFWL affect existing GFWL games? For instance, will I be able to play Arkham Asylum / City without some god awful client getting in the way and fucking with my save games?
From what I've seen, devs will most likely have to port their games to use the new XBOX LIVE APIs. I am not 100%, but I think GfWL titles will require the damn client until they are ported to use the new APIs.

Porting the games to use XBOX LIVE will finally help users get rid of the client. It shouldn't be much of a problem, since some / most of the APIs are the same, but I doubt many, if any, current games will be ported.

(It would be a great thing for everyone, and those blocked from GfWL will finally be able to play those games properly.)
Posted March 28, 2012
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kavazovangel: ...but I doubt many, if any, current games will be ported.
Yeah, that's the thing, I suppose. Sure, some might pay heed to the massive sales spikes that result from going DRM-free and think that removing a worldwide reviled client and replacing it with something that's (hopefully) a lot better will achieve something similar without going to great expense to achieve that.

How will 'everyone' benefit though? Isn't Xbox Live restricted to the same regions as GFWL?
Posted March 28, 2012
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Navagon: How will 'everyone' benefit though? Isn't Xbox Live restricted to the same regions as GFWL?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh694064.aspx#consumer_countries

It doesn't say anything about XBOX LIVE enabled apps / games, though.
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