Not just that, you can hook it up to your TV and one developer has supposedly (THQ/Darksiders II) said it is capable of running 1080P, key word here is "Might" grab a WII U, its not a definite, It's just a possibillity depending on how well it actually does turn out.

Oh wow, the Wii U does 1080p! Shocking! Like, oh, the two current-gen consoles.

Oops for Lowy xD

Actually, fact is, they support upscaling to 1080P, not true 1080P. Most are scaled back to around 420-720P. And it looks horrible in some games when upscaled, ATM, only PC's really support 1080P for most games, hence the current "Consoles are falling behind, must get next-gen now" debate.

Besides, I already have an Xbox 360 and PS3, so i would know. I think the major backlash here is because the original Wii was so focused on the casual crowd.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 does support native 1080p (some games do support it, in fact - just look at Virtua Tennis 3 or Gran Turismo 5) but most developers can't be bothered because there's a trade-off with disc space and content. But the idea that the 360 and the PS3 don't support native 1080p games is a myth.

Also, I don't care about 1080p resolution. Not because I hate graphics, but because I feel that 1080i is good enough, and 720p is pretty decent as well (the local HD channels on TV are 720p). Would I like a game more if I knew it had native 1080p support on a console? No, not really.

No its not a myth - Consoles are strained enough as it is, Developers have mentioned in several interviews that they feel that they have reached a dead-end with console engine development for now and that they are already pushing most new games on consoles as hard as they can to get them on consoles.

And the 1080P is neccessary for me, My TV is rather large, so things can get noticable very quickly.

I like the Wii U. I like the controller and the fact that it'll do real 1080, which has been stated since news first came out about it, the Link non playable demo was running at 1080 if I remember corectly, I don't think the controller outputs at 1080 though.

Did they definately change from one supportable controller to 2?... I thought it was dumb that it was only going to have one screened controller, but I heard they said they try to make it 2 instead.

I owned a modded xbox but that's the only console I've ever had, I'm thinking about picking up a Wii U also, if the games justify it, I'll wait til a bit after release, I've never been an early adopter for anything.

Even I know this and I don't take much on an interest in consoles.

PS3 and 360 do 'technically' support 1080, but it's pushing the hell out of the console and is only ever done on really simplified games, (either a simple engine or simple gameplay with not much happening on screen) and there's less than a handful of them out there, forget any of the big AAA's, they're all 720 upscales.

EDITED... misread.

This exactly. Yes, it's true, most games are 720p upscaled, but they both can do 1080p, as you point out
Yes it is: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1113342&postcount=2

That's just for PS3, there's an XBox 360 version floating around out there too.

They could, but they would have to cut out some of the other graphical options they've got in mind for consoles. Point is, they are at their limit. (And gran turismo really needed 1080P. Apparently cardboard figures never get old. Not saying its a bad game, i really enjoyed it. Its just a little ugly when playing with standard cars or looking at crowds)

I'm pretty sure Gran Turismo was one of the 1080p titles...

NVM, it wasn't...

No one minds if they upgrade the consoles, hell, they've been out since 2005 or so, but the Wii U isn't much of an upgrade even by 2005 console standards, certainly not enough to make me want to go by another Nintendo machine.

No, I said and gave examples of games that are running at native 1080p. Granted, the consoles right now are being stretched to breaking point in terms of power, and we can discuss whether or not developers are using 1080p, 1080i or 720p (or worse, 640p) for a variety of reasons, but you said that game consoles today do not run games at native 1080p. That is not true. There are games that do so (more than one might think), and I have named examples. We are not discussing what the trade-offs are, be it content-wise or performance-wise.

I will concede that not all games do 1080p, and I am totally understanding of the reasons why, but again, current-gen consoles (not including the Wii), and the PS3, especially do have quite a number of 1080p games. This. Is. A. Fact.

To be fair there are only 3 'real' games that do it, (a few more psn titles) 4 demos and a couple that only output 1080 screenshots, and I'd imagine the 360 would have even less games that could... btw, there are some strage resolution setups on that list.

That pretty much shows the problems current gen has.
Gran Turismo 5 doesn't and only virua Tennis 3 does... according to Orcish's list.

I'm only backing michaelleung, it's possible. I don't think anyone said it was common relative to the total number of available titles. And it's not entirely clear that it's the hardware's fault in some cases. Still, we're talking about 2005 hardware that can pretty much do what the new Wii U can...

Last time i checked, there was only around 8 games.'

Next up, you said that current-gen consoles can run games on 1080P, while this is true they cant run MOST games at 1080P without exceeding what the console has to offer. The mere fact that you argued that this was not a selling point for the WII U was complete ignorance of this fact, and maybe even a bit loosely suggested. The WII U is stated to run most AAA games at 1080P

The WII-U Might not be a full next-gen console, it may be, but i dont really care. If it comes cheap then i will buy it to bride the gap between when its released and the xbox next or PS4. after all, their not going to be re-releasing those games on xbox next or PS4, so i may as well get them in their best version rather then the xbox 360 or ps3 versions.