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Posted March 24, 2014
Went to a website PCPartPicker (thanks to Dzsono) and put together a build based on what i have learnt so far.

How does it compare with the Ebay systems?

(Differences: Ebay systems have power supply, and a big standard HDD but do not have OS)

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($395.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($495.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1417.00
Posted March 24, 2014
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mystikmind2000: Went to a website PCPartPicker (thanks to Dzsono) and put together a build based on what i have learnt so far.

How does it compare with the Ebay systems?

(Differences: Ebay systems have power supply, and a big standard HDD but do not have OS)

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($395.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($495.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1417.00
I have an earlier version of that motherboard, and I really like it :)

You do need a case and a power supply, or all you will have is parts laid out on a table. And you really want a hard disk to keep from filling up that expensive SSD.

Power supply: You need a Haswell-compatible model. Bare minimum for that hardware would be a first-tier 500 watt model. Something like a Seasonic G 550W. Older Seasonics are not Haswell-compatible.

Case: I don't like flashy cases. Something like a Corsair 200R is inexpensive, no bulkier than it has to be, and easy to work with.

Disk: A 120GB disk will be full before you know it. Add a Seagate ST1000DM003 (1TB) or ST2000DM001 (2TB).
Posted March 24, 2014
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mystikmind2000: Went to a website PCPartPicker (thanks to Dzsono) and put together a build based on what i have learnt so far.

How does it compare with the Ebay systems?

(Differences: Ebay systems have power supply, and a big standard HDD but do not have OS)

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($395.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($108.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($495.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1417.00
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cjrgreen: I have an earlier version of that motherboard, and I really like it :)

You do need a case and a power supply, or all you will have is parts laid out on a table. And you really want a hard disk to keep from filling up that expensive SSD.

Power supply: You need a Haswell-compatible model. Bare minimum for that hardware would be a first-tier 500 watt model. Something like a Seasonic G 550W. Older Seasonics are not Haswell-compatible.

Case: I don't like flashy cases. Something like a Corsair 200R is inexpensive, no bulkier than it has to be, and easy to work with.

Disk: A 120GB disk will be full before you know it. Add a Seagate ST1000DM003 (1TB) or ST2000DM001 (2TB).
Well there going to be separate parts weather i like it or not because different sellers.

I already have several SATA HDD in my old computer 1x1T and 1X2T Plus another SATA 500GB one with the old operating system on it and a couple of old IDE HDD which are currently in storage.

Also i have one old IDE DVD i want to connect to the new computer - it is essential because all the newer SATA DVD are all too useless to read many of my older disks. I have about 3 or 4 of them lying around somewhere in storage.... connected them expecting them to be better,, then not better, disconnect, go back to the old IDE DVD player again! And i have already bought an IDE to SATA converter and hope it works?
Posted March 24, 2014
Apart from physical shape and wattage, what makes a power supply compatible or not?
Posted March 24, 2014
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mystikmind2000: Apart from physical shape and wattage, what makes a power supply compatible or not?
Haswell has a novel extremely low power sleep mode. Power supplies have a minimum current needed to maintain regulation, and many older-standard power supplies cannot work at sufficiently low current for this mode. Affected systems may fail to come out of sleep mode.

Power supplies that are Haswell compatible will state this in their specifications. Other power supplies are a poor risk with Haswell setups.
Posted March 25, 2014
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mystikmind2000: Apart from physical shape and wattage, what makes a power supply compatible or not?
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cjrgreen: Haswell has a novel extremely low power sleep mode. Power supplies have a minimum current needed to maintain regulation, and many older-standard power supplies cannot work at sufficiently low current for this mode. Affected systems may fail to come out of sleep mode.

Power supplies that are Haswell compatible will state this in their specifications. Other power supplies are a poor risk with Haswell setups.
Well (warning, extreme sarcasm alert, possibly resulting in head exploding at the shock of how stupid things are in Australia), electricity is insanely expensive in Australia because of our huge population, massive manufacturing industries and so little space to build power plants and no natural resources to power them, such as coal or uranium...... So i would appreciate anything that saves electricity!
Post edited March 25, 2014 by mystikmind2000
Posted March 25, 2014
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cjrgreen: Haswell has a novel extremely low power sleep mode. Power supplies have a minimum current needed to maintain regulation, and many older-standard power supplies cannot work at sufficiently low current for this mode. Affected systems may fail to come out of sleep mode.

Power supplies that are Haswell compatible will state this in their specifications. Other power supplies are a poor risk with Haswell setups.
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mystikmind2000: Well (warning, extreme sarcasm alert, possibly resulting in head exploding at the shock of how stupid things are in Australia), electricity is insanely expensive in Australia because of our huge population, massive manufacturing industries and so little space to build power plants and no natural resources to power them, such as coal or uranium...... So i would appreciate anything that saves electricity!
We're pretty close. San Diego, California: US$0.275/kWh; last rates I saw for Australia, equivalent of US$0.29/kWh.

So we both gain from conservation.
Posted March 25, 2014
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mystikmind2000: Well (warning, extreme sarcasm alert, possibly resulting in head exploding at the shock of how stupid things are in Australia), electricity is insanely expensive in Australia because of our huge population, massive manufacturing industries and so little space to build power plants and no natural resources to power them, such as coal or uranium...... So i would appreciate anything that saves electricity!
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cjrgreen: We're pretty close. San Diego, California: US$0.275/kWh; last rates I saw for Australia, equivalent of US$0.29/kWh.

So we both gain from conservation.
About right...
I have seen it above 30cents (USD) per kilowatt hour, with an inflation rate of about 37% compared to a national inflation rate of 10%

Shortly i will be expanding my current solar system to include batteries but no matter how much i expand it, we are not allowed to build a stand alone solar system. We have to be connected to the grid if it is available, and just that connection alone they charge about $200 AUD a quarter.
Post edited March 25, 2014 by mystikmind2000
Posted March 25, 2014
Thanks to all those who posted, all the advice was greatly appreciated.
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