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This is my favourite topic
Posted August 09, 2012
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doccarnby: Can it not be both?
Yes it can!
Posted August 09, 2012
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anjohl: Fallout 3 is the sequel, like it or not. NV is a side story.
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StingingVelvet: Only if what is written on the box is more important than the actual game.
Personally, I consider people who say that "New Vegas" isn't a Fallout game buthurt gaming hipsters. The core game mechanics are the same in each instalment, NV just had a shift of perspective (literally). And everybody who knows and loves the first Fallouts will have no problem seeing how well New Vegas fits into those.

Unlike Fallout 3 and Fallout Tactis. Which share some similarities but derive too much from the core concept to work.

If you are really nitpicky, you could say that only Fallout 2 and New Vegas form a series and Fallout 1 stands alone. Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 were quite different games, if you take a closer look.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by SimonG
Posted August 09, 2012
For the record I think FO3 is a fine game, different strengths from New Vegas but equally fun. I just think if either is a sequel to FO1 and FO2, it is New Vegas by a huge margin.
Posted August 09, 2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: "Hello children it's THREEEEEEEEE DAAAAAAAAWG!! bow wow and your listening to Galaxy News radio" got annoying the FIRST time I heard it. So I turned it off and just listened to the soundscapes instead.
True.
Which is why I kept listening to Enclave Radio's propaganda broadcasts and patriotic music. Malcolm McDowell is the best VA in the game, anyway, as far as I'm concerned.
Posted August 09, 2012
I'm starting to think I'm the only person on the planet who liked Three Dog.
Posted August 09, 2012
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anjohl: Fallout 3 is the sequel, like it or not. NV is a side story.
FNV is as much of a sequel as Fallout 3 is. Heck, Fallout 3 actually feels a lot more of a side story than NV.
Post edited August 09, 2012 by Daynov
Posted August 09, 2012
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adamzs: I'm starting to think I'm the only person on the planet who liked Three Dog.
Nope, I liked Three Dog as well. It's just those ungrateful suckers who didn't.
Posted August 09, 2012
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adamzs: I'm starting to think I'm the only person on the planet who liked Three Dog.
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Fenixp: Nope, I liked Three Dog as well. It's just those ungrateful suckers who didn't.
What I liked about three Dog was the funny replacement you go when you killed him ;-P.

I also liked F3 as a good game, I got the full gamescore on it. But it pales completely behind the other Fallouts.
Posted August 09, 2012
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SimonG: What I liked about three Dog was the funny replacement you go when you killed him ;-P.

I also liked F3 as a good game, I got the full gamescore on it. But it pales completely behind the other Fallouts.
I actually think that if you forget about writing and quests for a while and just roam the post-apocalyptic world, Fallout 3 is by far the best of the series. For exploration and world design. So it doesn't exactly pale COMPLETELY, it just pales in aspects that make Fallout games ... Well, Fallout.

edit: I STILL like F3 more than second iteration, believe it or not I really didn't like the second game all that much :-P
Post edited August 09, 2012 by Fenixp
Posted August 09, 2012
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Fenixp: edit: I STILL like F3 more than second iteration, believe it or not I really didn't like the second game all that much :-P
Yeah, the second was a bit "hit and miss". Still better than F3, imo. It also had one of the most annoying Fallout characters. But is also had some of the funniest.

Actually, you could say that F3 is the successor to F1. As both games have more similar themes and feel to them. Both were about taking the first steps in a nuclear wasteland and both were more focused on actual exploration and survival.

But F3 had some pretty bad level design mishaps. The idea to completely "break up" Washington into small pockets which would be connected by similar tubes was amongst the worst, imo. But the graphics are still marvellous. I had great fun playing it. Yet, not as much as with the others ;-).
Posted August 09, 2012
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SimonG: But F3 had some pretty bad level design mishaps. The idea to completely "break up" Washington into small pockets which would be connected by similar tubes was amongst the worst, imo.
I agree completely, which is why I love this mod. I've played around with it recently and it really makes those bland DC areas so much more interesting to explore and scavenge.
Posted August 09, 2012
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Fenixp: I actually think that if you forget about writing and quests for a while and just roam the post-apocalyptic world, Fallout 3 is by far the best of the series. For exploration and world design. So it doesn't exactly pale COMPLETELY, it just pales in aspects that make Fallout games ... Well, Fallout.

edit: I STILL like F3 more than second iteration, believe it or not I really didn't like the second game all that much :-P
I prefer New Vegas by a hair, because it's more my thing, i.e. great writing, choice and consequence, roleplaying. Fallout 3 is a super great game though, and a much better open-world explorathon.
Posted August 09, 2012
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adamzs: I'm starting to think I'm the only person on the planet who liked Three Dog.
I also like him.

And, yeah, I think one of my big problems with FO3 is having to go into the subways to navigate DC, and the huge piles of rubble blocking everything off. Such a terrible choice, I think.
I gotta say, I don't get the people saying that FO3 feels more Open-World, it feels a lot more linear to me. I'm enjoying it, I guess, it just feels so much weaker than New Vegas. Kinda why I wish they'd just hire on Obsidian to make every Fallout game from now on, but I guess they're doing 4 in-house.
Posted August 09, 2012
I am still on my first play through of Fallout New Vegas. This is actually the first game from Fallout franchise I have ever played. I am having a great time! There is a story, but the fact it is so non-linear means I usually discover things and places in the wrong order. Also I tend to wander off and get lost a lot. A LOT. This has caused me to fight more/stronger creatures than the story missions intend. Therefore when I finally do find the story missions I feel over powered. I honestly had about 16+ hours put into the game before I learned that there was a fast travel system. Lol

*Spoiler alert* For example, when I got to the casino that had Benny inside. (Benny is the person who shot you in the head before the game began) The guards at the door said to hand over my weapons. I decided to test my luck/skill and just kill them. I literally killed everyone in that casino. First try. Looking at the loot, I think I was supposed to be stealthy and steal his room key, then kill him in the night. *Spoiler Done*
Posted August 09, 2012
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charlight: I am still on my first play through of Fallout New Vegas. This is actually the first game from Fallout franchise I have ever played. I am having a great time! There is a story, but the fact it is so non-linear means I usually discover things and places in the wrong order. Also I tend to wander off and get lost a lot. A LOT. This has caused me to fight more/stronger creatures than the story missions intend. Therefore when I finally do find the story missions I feel over powered. I honestly had about 16+ hours put into the game before I learned that there was a fast travel system. Lol

*Spoiler alert* For example, when I got to the casino that had Benny inside. (Benny is the person who shot you in the head before the game began) The guards at the door said to hand over my weapons. I decided to test my luck/skill and just kill them. I literally killed everyone in that casino. First try. Looking at the loot, I think I was supposed to be stealthy and steal his room key, then kill him in the night. *Spoiler Done*
Yeah, one of the coolest things about NV is how flexible it is. Besides children, there're only two (or maybe 3, I forget) unkillable characters in the game, which basically ensure that you won't completely bork the story, but otherwise you can go on a constant murder spree if you like. Which is an extreme contrast to Skyrim where like 75% of the population is unkillable.

You should definitely check out the other Fallout games afterwards, as they all have that non-linear story approach. Though FO3 does the whole Bethesda level-scaling thing so you won't usually fight guys significantly stronger than you.
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