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Posted June 09, 2011
I just bought this and read the EULA and I cannot agree to it nor play the game on install as I have to agree to EA's Data mining and many other DRM schemes that are in this and I guess all EA games now on GoG.com Now I have spent $6 for something that I cannot use. Thanks GoG for nothing. I know I cannot get a refund as I have downloaded this crap that you say is DRM free but has all the stuff that EA wants in it. I am very PISSED as GoG.com right now cannot believe you agreed to allow this stuff in your EA games.

GoG.com I am waiting a reply to this If I even get one...
Post edited June 09, 2011 by FlyByU
This question / problem has been solved by lightnicaimage
Posted June 09, 2011
Reread the portion about collecting information more carefully. Note the preceding sentence.
Posted June 09, 2011
Not that this is going to make you happier but two points:

1) You can view the EULA before purchasing. Its at http://items.gog.com/EULA.pdf and linked to in every EA game page.

2) None of the data mining/drm schemes are present in Alpha Centauri. So while you are give EA a right to do such things, you aren't giving them the means to.
Posted June 09, 2011
If you're gonna say it has DRM then at least quote the part from the EULA about that, I mean at least do us all a favor...
Posted June 09, 2011
This is what came in the game

By installing or using the Software, you agree to the terms of this License and agree to be bound by it. Section 3 below describes the data EA may use to provide services and support to you in connection with the Software. If you do not agree to this use of data, do not install or use the Software. IF YOU INSTALL THE SOFTWARE, THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS LICENSE ARE FULLY ACCEPTED BY YOU. If you do not agree to the terms of this License, then do not install or use the Software.

2. Consent to Use of Data. When you play this game offline, EA and its affiliates may collect and store non-personally identifiable data including your Internet Protocol Address as well as game play and software usage statistics. If and when you access online features and/or services (if any), this data may be transmitted to EA. EA may use this information to improve our products and services and may share anonymous data with third parties.

To facilitate Technical Protection Measures (if any), the provision of software updates, any dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including marketing, advertising and online play (if any), you agree that EA and its affiliates may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including an Internet Protocol Address and hardware identification), operating system and application software and peripheral hardware. EA and its affiliates may also use this information in the aggregate, in a form which does not personally identify you, to improve our products and services and we may share anonymous data with our third party service providers.

All data is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at http://privacy.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by FlyByU
Posted June 09, 2011
Its the standard EULA that comes with every EA game, old and new. Ubisoft has its own EULA as well. As far as the data mining, the EULA is only saying that EA may do it, but it doesn't mean they will do it. And since many of these games didn't have data mining code as part of them originally as they predated the widespread adoption of the internet, EA can not actually exercise that portion of the EULA.

Again, the DRM has been stripped off these titles, and the EULA is a generic one that was written with modern games in mind and slapped on these ones. It is mostly EA making sure their ass is covered.
Posted June 09, 2011
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FlyByU: This is what came in the game

By installing or using the Software, you agree to the terms of this License and agree to be bound by it. Section 3 below describes the data EA may use to provide services and support to you in connection with the Software. If you do not agree to this use of data, do not install or use the Software. IF YOU INSTALL THE SOFTWARE, THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS LICENSE ARE FULLY ACCEPTED BY YOU. If you do not agree to the terms of this License, then do not install or use the Software.
OK let me go at this another way. What did you explicitly click "I agree" to when downloading and installing the game? Just the GOG EULA? Then delete the EA EULA as it is just a file sitting on your computer with no legal bearing on you.
Posted June 09, 2011
This "issue" really shows the freaky side of some of GOG's anti-DRM userbase.
Posted June 09, 2011
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FlyByU: GoG.com I am waiting a reply to this If I even get one...
GOG disclaims any and all responsibility or liability for the accuracy, content, completeness, legality, reliability, or operability or availability of information or material contained on the Service. GOG disclaims any responsibility for the deletion, failure to store, misdelivery, or untimely delivery of any information or material in respect to the Service. GOG disclaims any responsibility for any harm resulting from downloading or accessing any information or material on or thorough the Service. GOG has no duty or policy to update any information on the Service, and therefore, such information should not be relied upon as being current as of the date you access this site. Moreover, any portion of the materials available on the Service may include technical inaccuracies or typographical errors. Changes may be made from time to time without updates to either the Content or Products provided on the Service.

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Posted June 09, 2011
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FlyByU: This is what came in the game

By installing or using the Software, you agree to the terms of this License and agree to be bound by it. Section 3 below describes the data EA may use to provide services and support to you in connection with the Software. If you do not agree to this use of data, do not install or use the Software. IF YOU INSTALL THE SOFTWARE, THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS LICENSE ARE FULLY ACCEPTED BY YOU. If you do not agree to the terms of this License, then do not install or use the Software.
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lightnica: OK let me go at this another way. What did you explicitly click "I agree" to when downloading and installing the game? Just the GOG EULA? Then delete the EA EULA as it is just a file sitting on your computer with no legal bearing on you.
D/Led not installed because I didn't agree and it doesn't ask anything when you D/L it.
Thank you lightnica for official response. Noted and wilco.
Posted June 09, 2011
I am data mining everything you put in here, and sending it to EA immediately.
Posted June 09, 2011
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hobbes543: EULA is only saying that EA may do it, but it doesn't mean they will do it
Well, EA could also say in its EULA: If you install this game we will kill your whole family. EA may do that but it doesn't mean they will do it because they do not have required "code". Or.. wait... err...

Conclusion: I fully understand OP's fears and do not understand at all laziness of EA nor GOG - why not include actually some "useful" EULA instead of this freaky copypasta?
Post edited June 09, 2011 by Lexor
Posted June 09, 2011
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Lexor: Well, EA could also say in its EULA: If you install this game we will kill your whole family.
LOL now if it said that I bet there would be a lot of dead families because people don't read what they are agreeing to...
Posted June 09, 2011
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StingingVelvet: This "issue" really shows the freaky side of some of GOG's anti-DRM userbase.
Issue more for me is they're collection of "non personally identifiable information". Who gets to define what's "non personally identifiable"? In this case it seems: EA. And what happens if EA "accidentally" collects more information than it says it is collecting?

Sort of like how Google's street mapping cars also collected wireless data while out and about supposedly only taking pictures. What happened in that case? Google kept the data. And now they are using it to power a WIFI based location based service.

(I sense impending flaming. Its OK, I don't mind. And please everyone don't take what someone on an internet forum says personally.)
Posted June 09, 2011
No one but GoG.com knows if it has some kind of file or program added to the game so EA can track them and transmit info to EA. Hell a little Cookie can do that from a internet site so it doesn't take much to add some kind of tracking program or file to a GoG.com game and I wouldn't put EA past that and with that EULA in place who knows... there are things that send info as soon as you connect to the internet that you don't even know is running on your PC. And bypassing your Firewall everyday.

So still looking for a Official GoG.com Representative to respond to this issue.
Post edited June 09, 2011 by FlyByU
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