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Posted July 25, 2013
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sanscript: [3] They sometimes crop movies
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MobiusArcher: I didn't even know that, but now that I think about it, I cant really recall any movies being in that more widescreen than 16:9 ratio that most movies are in these days. Its not the sort of thing I would notice though, so I cant be sure. I would prefer they didn't do it, but its not nearly as bad as cropping it down to 4:3 like the old days. I suppose it also does make the service better for some people too. I live in an apartment building with a lot of elderly residents. They are all having to upgrade to widescreen HDTVs now. A lot of them seem completely unable to grasp to concept of aspect ratios. They are constantly fiddling about with zoom button on their remote, trying to get the image to fit the whole screen while also not making everyone look fat. In the end, they usually prefer the stretched image fat people over the correct aspect ratio if there is going to be black bars.
I watched Once Upon A Time In The West the other day and it was definitely 2.35:1.
Posted July 25, 2013
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timppu: So buffering 1080p feed over a slower connection should be possible in Netflix?

I got the opposite impression from their local web pages, where they seemed to state that you simply can't watch 1080p stream at all (but 720p or even less), unless you have a 10+ Mbps connection, and your ISP has an ongoing agreement with Netflix (maybe related to the ISP offering priority to Netflix data, or buffering Netflix video on their servers in advance?).
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MobiusArcher: Im not saying you can buffer 1080p on a slower connection, Im just saying you don't need as fast a connection as you do for YouTube. This is in my area though, who knows how it is in Finland. I highly doubt it is part of any ISP deals with Netflix.
I recalled slightly wrong about 10 Mbps minimum, they are suggesting you should have around 7 Mbps for the best quality.

About the deals they have with ISPs, here's what they say on the Finnish Netflix pages (the main point is "Netflix Open Connect content distribution network"). Not sure if this is different in US?

https://contactus.netflix.com/article/fi/node/8736?ba=TopKBLinkClick

Rough Google-translation:

Netflix Super HD

Netflix now offers a super high-definition streaming for the following devices:

Sony PlayStation 3
Apple TV 1080p
Roku to 1080p *
Nintendo Wii U
Windows 8 app
TiVo Premiere DVR
Blu-ray players, smart TVs, home theaters, and streaming players with Netflix support 1080p *
In the near future will be more devices for support!

In order to show Super HD titles, your Internet service provider must join Netflix Open Connect content distribution network. Check the super high-side, whether your Internet service provider associated with.

If your device is compatible, and internet service provider has joined Netflix Open Connect to a network, you can search for movies description view, super high-definition titles that are marked with Super HD 'logo.

Please note that the Super HD requires a network connection with a speed of at least 5 Mb / s The best image quality for speed is 7 Mb / s

For more information Super HD and Netflix Open Connect online to get super high-side and Netflix Open the Connect page.

* Note: While some Super HD-ready devices do not have Super HD logo, so we offer these devices on Super HD-quality video.
https://signup.netflix.com/openconnect

Netflix Open Connect content distribution network

ISPs can connect directly to the network, open the Connect to the network for free. This can be done by either using the free internet peering service center. Service providers can save even more by connecting the transfer price of free memory device to make their network or close to it.

Open the Connect to the network is already associated with major service providers around the world, such as Frontier, British Telecom, TDC, Clearwire, GVT, Telus, Bell Canada, Virgin, Cablevision, Google Fiber, Telmex, and many others.

Open Connect as part of our HW design the server and open source software components. These models are suitable for all large media files to the intermediate bodies, and are very cost effective. Comments and suggestions for improvement are welcome. They shared with the community to achieve a faster and more affordable Internet for all.

Open Connect is a single use of the content distribution network. By accessing third-party commercial CDN networks Open the Connect to the network we can save you money and keep the consumer preferred.
Post edited July 25, 2013 by timppu
Posted July 25, 2013
I like it. It's so lazy and I like that. The streaming is seldom an issue but I've a fast and stable internet connection but I actually have the netflix account set up in a bluray player that uses wi-fi and it still works. What I don't like is when you want to jump to scenes, it takes forever to load the sequences just a few seconds away, I would have preferred a better buffer system where after the entire show or movie is buffered you can jump to any sequence with little to no delay. As for the selection, I think it's fine. It doesn't have as many TV shows as I want but good enough.
Posted July 25, 2013
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MobiusArcher: I didn't even know that, but now that I think about it, I cant really recall any movies being in that more widescreen than 16:9 ratio that most movies are in these days. Its not the sort of thing I would notice though, so I cant be sure. I would prefer they didn't do it, but its not nearly as bad as cropping it down to 4:3 like the old days. I suppose it also does make the service better for some people too. I live in an apartment building with a lot of elderly residents. They are all having to upgrade to widescreen HDTVs now. A lot of them seem completely unable to grasp to concept of aspect ratios. They are constantly fiddling about with zoom button on their remote, trying to get the image to fit the whole screen while also not making everyone look fat. In the end, they usually prefer the stretched image fat people over the correct aspect ratio if there is going to be black bars.
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yyahoo: I watched Once Upon A Time In The West the other day and it was definitely 2.35:1.
lol, know what you mean! But I can also understand them. It ain`t always easy.

The problem also lies in the TV company, they sometimes screens a move in the wrong ratio, and then some TVs automatically (if pre-programmed to) shifts the aspect racio again, or cropping (almost like zooming). Every movie should be screened/streamed in it`s original ratio and no cropping.

However, since I`m on a 16:10 monitor, I sometimes crop (but with same aspect ratio) old movies and 16:9 movies, but I don`t care about that on my own movies, because I have seen them many times before, and I can always change it to see more of the screen.

EDIT: mangling out some errors :-)
Post edited July 25, 2013 by sanscript
Posted July 25, 2013
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timppu: About the deals they have with ISPs, here's what they say on the Finnish Netflix pages (the main point is "Netflix Open Connect content distribution network"). Not sure if this is different in US?
Well, what do you know. I guess they do have deals with some ISP's. That's for super HD, and 3D though. I don't believe my ISP has one of those deals. Netlflix's normal 1080p isn't the same as the super HD. The super HD is the same resolution, but it a higher quality stream. I imagine its not compressed as much or something, but I cant say for sure, as I don't get the super HD.
Posted July 25, 2013
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hedwards: Ouch. I wouldn't have Netflix if my roomate didn't want it because the selection is so bad. And it's worse in Denmark? That's got to suck.
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thebum06: Yes, it's terrible. From what I can see, our only selection of TV-series atm is:
Orange is the new Black
Breaking Bad
Cars Toons: Mater's Tall Tales
Family Guy
The Killing
How I Met Your Mother
House of Cards
Prison Break
Modern Family
Arrested Development
Sons of Anarchy
Lost
The Backyardigans
DuckTales
Gossip Girl
Blue Mountain State
Dexter (Only four seasons)
Shaun the Sheep

The film selection is not much better.
Supposedly there's a lot more if you actually log in, but in general, most series are a couple of seasons behind.

Plus, there's always VPNs to access the US library.
Posted July 25, 2013
this is what I use to see what is available

http://instantwatcher.com/subgenres

$8 a month versus paying for cable/sattellite..no comparison...
Posted July 25, 2013
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buckstone: this is what I use to see what is available

http://instantwatcher.com/subgenres

$8 a month versus paying for cable/sattellite..no comparison...
there is if you can download or stream movies but even I'll admit that's rare
Posted July 25, 2013
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Pidgeot: Supposedly there's a lot more if you actually log in, but in general, most series are a couple of seasons behind.

Plus, there's always VPNs to access the US library.
I used to do that and it worked pretty well.

But, that was before I gave up and just pirated the hell out of things I was interested in watching. It wasn't like pirating the materials was any less legal than using a VPN to pretend I was in the US.

Sometimes I wonder if IP holders realize how much money they're losing by not providing legal access to materials everywhere.
Posted July 25, 2013
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Pidgeot: Supposedly there's a lot more if you actually log in, but in general, most series are a couple of seasons behind.

Plus, there's always VPNs to access the US library.
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hedwards: I used to do that and it worked pretty well.

But, that was before I gave up and just pirated the hell out of things I was interested in watching. It wasn't like pirating the materials was any less legal than using a VPN to pretend I was in the US.

Sometimes I wonder if IP holders realize how much money they're losing by not providing legal access to materials everywhere.
They`re all old grumpy white men and not exactly well versed in technology. I would gladly pay 10-15 usd for a movie in 720p and mkv.
Post edited July 25, 2013 by sanscript
Posted July 25, 2013
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buckstone: this is what I use to see what is available

http://instantwatcher.com/subgenres

$8 a month versus paying for cable/sattellite..no comparison...
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tinyE: there is if you can download or stream movies but even I'll admit that's rare
yea Tiny that is for the streaming version of Netflix. If that is what your post was referring to
Posted July 25, 2013
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tinyE: there is if you can download or stream movies but even I'll admit that's rare
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buckstone: yea Tiny that is for the streaming version of Netflix. If that is what your post was referring to
Some cable/satellite providers also include an on-demand service. I think he was referring to those.
Posted July 25, 2013
oh..had no idea they did that...thanks skunk
well thought the on demand was like WW(something) or some concert thing..
Post edited July 25, 2013 by buckstone
Posted July 25, 2013
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buckstone: oh..had no idea they did that...thanks skunk
well thought the on demand was like WWF or some concert thing..
*ahem* WWE
Vince got sued over that, be careful. :P
Posted July 25, 2013
last time I watched it that is what it went by..yes it has been a few years
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