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Posted February 13, 2010
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Delixe: Cloanto already has the perfect working emulator so an agreement to use that would be needed. Amiga Inc can grant the Kickstart ROM's (exactly what Cloanto use).
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Wishbone: To the best of my knowledge, Cloanto is not an emulator. It is simply a legal package designed for use with WinUAE (which IS an emulator, and is perfectly free), including the necessary kickstart ROM images, the Workbench OS and some games and demos.

Yup you are exactly right. I suppose I wasn't being clear. What I meant was there are two options. GOG can negotiate to use Clonato's Amiga Forever package or they could use WinUAE themselves and negotiate with Amiga Inc to use the Kickstart's required. The second option would be more profitable but would require more work. Also it should be noted that you don't actually need all the Kickstart ROM's just a few.
Either way the games would be packaged just as they are with ScummVM and DosBox.
Posted February 13, 2010
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Delixe: Yup you are exactly right. I suppose I wasn't being clear. What I meant was there are two options. GOG can negotiate to use Clonato's Amiga Forever package or they could use WinUAE themselves and negotiate with Amiga Inc to use the Kickstart's required. The second option would be more profitable but would require more work. Also it should be noted that you don't actually need all the Kickstart ROM's just a few.
Either way the games would be packaged just as they are with ScummVM and DosBox.

Yup, that sounds about right. Well, there's certainly a market for it. I know I'd buy a lot of Amiga games, given the chance. Still, it's even more of a niche than what GOG is currently occupying, so I doubt we'll see any Amiga games here anytime soon. One can always hope, of course :-)
Posted February 13, 2010
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NamelessFragger: And while not a console (CDTV and CD32 being the exceptions), I would LOVE to see Amiga games on GOG, especially since many of them from the 1980s have versions superior to the IBM PC releases. (Even games like Starflight may be ports, but the enhanced graphics, sound, and interface are so worth it.)
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Tantrix: I really want to see Prince of Persia here. Not the new one, the true classic :)

The one that put Jordan Mechner on the map? I second that, unless it's already included in one of Ubisoft's remakes (sort of like how Day of the Tentacle includes Maniac Mansion).
(And speaking of Jordan Mechner, while I already have an Interplay-published copy of the game, what are the chances of seeing The Last Express here on GOG?)
Posted February 14, 2010
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NamelessFragger: The one that put Jordan Mechner on the map? I second that, unless it's already included in one of Ubisoft's remakes (sort of like how Day of the Tentacle includes Maniac Mansion).
(And speaking of Jordan Mechner, while I already have an Interplay-published copy of the game, what are the chances of seeing The Last Express here on GOG?)

Pretty high if Jordan is aware of this site. Here's his board:
http://jordanmechner.com/
Posted February 14, 2010
How did gametap do it? With emulation or with ports? I'm guessing it was emulation?
If that's the case then it might be possible to arrange legally. But probably only for very old platforms, and those games would probably have to be sold at a very low price point, or bundled into big packs to be attractive.
Technically, aren't all the dosbox games on here using an emulator?
Not sure it should be a priority right now.
Posted February 14, 2010
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soulgrindr: Technically, aren't all the dosbox games on here using an emulator?

Pieces of it, yes. It provides hooks to sound and graphics hardware no longer used and translates the calls to some generic OS functions that works on modern computers regardless of the actual hardware. I'm not so sure about processor instructions since the modern variants still CAN execute 16-bit code even if 64-bit Windows refuses to run it directly.
I'd call DOSbox a virtual machine (though you cannot install any operating system in it - Windows 3 and 95 may work but both are really just shells expanding the functionality of DOS, which is provided), but not an emulator.
Post edited February 14, 2010 by Miaghstir
Posted February 14, 2010
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soulgrindr: Technically, aren't all the dosbox games on here using an emulator?
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Miaghstir: Pieces of it, yes. It provides hooks to sound and graphics hardware no longer used and translates the calls to some generic OS functions that works on modern computers regardless of the actual hardware. I'm not so sure about processor instructions since the modern variants still CAN execute 16-bit code even if 64-bit Windows refuses to run it directly.Nope, once the CPU switches to 32bit you cant run programs depending on 16bit modes anymore.
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Miaghstir: I'd call DOSbox a virtual machine (though you cannot install any operating system in it - Windows 3 and 95 may work but both are really just shells expanding the functionality of DOS, which is provided), but not an emulator.
Actually DosBox fully emulates the CPU, and "Virtual Machine" is just another word for an Emulator, AFAIK made popular by Java.
Post edited February 14, 2010 by Npl
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