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Posted December 27, 2011
I understand it's been released for almost 11 days already, but locally it's just a few days ago and I have not watched it. I kind of like the first movie, and was wondering how this sequel fares compared to the first. Is it better? I do not mind spoiler. Heck, I'll probably head to wikipedia to read the plot right after posting this, but anyway I am curious of what fellow GOGers think about this movie.
Post edited December 27, 2011 by tarangwydion
Posted December 27, 2011
Shadowy man...Very fuzzy. ;-p I don't know either, I haven't been to the theatre in 6 months or so, but I was thinking of seeing this..if it was any good. I checked metacritic a little while ago and I think they gavve it a 49 average among the critics..so I then said to myself: Well, I wonder if I will go to the theatre in June? ;-P
Ah, here is the Metacritic page:
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/sherlock-holmes-a-game-of-shadows
I see now that the users seem to like it more than the critics...so maybe it is worth watching after all. :)
Posted December 27, 2011
I see that in Metacritic they gave 57 out of 100 for the first movie... and I like that movie... so yes I guess I'll go with user reviews instead of critic :-)
Posted December 27, 2011
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tarangwydion: I see that in Metacritic they gave 57 out of 100 for the first movie... and I like that movie... so yes I guess I'll go with user reviews instead of critic :-)
Excellent point indeed sir! Especially if you want to have a night on the town anyways! :D Yeah, I'm thinking I might go too, I've been wanting to be in a large cave-like room full of strangers and stale popcorn lately, having my eardrums blown out by overloud speakers and neckpain from looking up...ahhh it is enjoyable somehow...Strange but true really. ;D
Posted December 27, 2011
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tarangwydion: /snip
My girlfriend saw it and enjoyed the movie.
Posted December 27, 2011
I saw this yesterday. I hated it, wife loved it.
Don't expect a detective movie; this is a mediocre action film. Sherlock Holmes is not supposed to be a badass beating 5 guys but he is a detective mastermind. Plot isn't going anywhere, every little point in the story is blatantly obvious in the first 5 minutes of the film. There is no detective work involved but tons of slow-mo action and lame comedy. main character is nothing like Sherlock Holmes, he is not eccentric, not interesting, he is just pathetic. Jared Harris is not believable as Moriarty, Jude Law is not bad but his character, Watson, is dull.
Post edited December 27, 2011 by Cleidophoros
Posted December 27, 2011
I went ahead to watch it in the cinema last night (if any of you are curious, the ticket is about USD1.65 per person) anyway. It has more actions and less detective works than the first movie. One of my colleagues in the office already warned me about this. Yes, overall I prefer the first one.

While I do not mind spoiler, I do not want to spoil it for others, so I'll just say that the death of someone in the movie rather upsets me.

The soundtrack is as excellent as ever.

Rather sad that Lestrade does not get more screen time here. Mycroft also is not shown as being smarter (but lazy) than Sherlock in the movie.

I think Jared Harris is pretty good though, especially since the other Moriarty portrayal I remember watching is that *shudder* clown from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.

I also like Jude Law's Watson better than other portrayals, for example such as the bumbling Watson in Murder by Decree.

And... I am honestly quite curious about hedgehog goulash. Sounds delicious :-D
Post edited December 27, 2011 by tarangwydion
Posted December 27, 2011
The last forty five minutes is incredible. The first portion of the movie was...umm...I'm not even being sarcastic when I say I don't really remember. A lot of people shot at each other and someone got wounded.

I liked it pretty well, but it was nothing compared to the first one, since in the second he did most of his 'detecting' by brainlessly running around getting shot at and making witty comments.

If you're flush, I'm sure you'll enjoy it, but if money's tight, wait for it to come to video.
Posted December 27, 2011
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Cleidophoros: Sherlock Holmes is not supposed to be a badass beating 5 guys but he is a detective mastermind.
Actually, in the stories Sherlock Holmes is very strong and an adept boxer and fencer. Granted it didn't come up all that often, but him beating the living snot out of someone isn't completely out there.
Posted December 27, 2011
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tarangwydion: And... I am honestly quite curious about hedgehog goulash. Sounds delicious :-D
Me too! :D
Post edited December 27, 2011 by Runehamster
Posted December 27, 2011
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Cleidophoros: Sherlock Holmes is not supposed to be a badass beating 5 guys but he is a detective mastermind.
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Gonchi: Actually, in the stories Sherlock Holmes is very strong and an adept boxer and fencer. Granted it didn't come up all that often, but him beating the living snot out of someone isn't completely out there.
Yes he is but it doesn't come up all too often like you said and he never runs around beating the livin shit out of people, he solves cases with his mind not fists. While watching this film I felt it was just a caricature of Sherlock Holmes. Like runehamster pointed, running around like aheadless chicken making witty comments for a failed attempt at comedy.
Posted December 27, 2011
Agreed with much of the sentiments here. My wife and I went to the digital projection screen here to see it on a date.

It was entertaining but ultimately disappointing. More action, more guns, more explosions. Not as much story and intrigue as I wanted.

A decent distraction for a cheap matinee or a rent.

Side note: I enjoyed "In Time" more.
Post edited December 27, 2011 by csmith
Posted December 27, 2011
Its a bit camp but its not a bad film normally when i watch a film thats it, i wont bother with it again. But i could watch this again.

The above statement about watching films once covers 98% of films from the past 10-15 years to put it into perspective for me.
Posted December 28, 2011
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Cleidophoros: Sherlock Holmes is not supposed to be a badass beating 5 guys but he is a detective mastermind.
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Gonchi: Actually, in the stories Sherlock Holmes is very strong and an adept boxer and fencer. Granted it didn't come up all that often, but him beating the living snot out of someone isn't completely out there.
From what I recall reading in interviews, the writers/director actually saw this version of Holmes as being very faithful to the original depiction of Holmes in Doyle's writings, and I was surprised that some of my friends who are avid Holmes fans actually agree. FWIW, I enjoyed the first movie as a decent popcorn action film with token detective elements in it, and I'm sure the second one will be no different.
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tarangwydion: I think Jared Harris is pretty good though, especially since the other Moriarty portrayal I remember watching is that *shudder* clown from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was goofy and over the top (but I actually found the graphic novel series even more *delightfully* goofy and over the top), but yeah, I found Moriarty in that movie to be utterly forgettable.

The thing was, I actually didn't mind this version of Homes until I took up watching the Steven Moffat's "Sherlock", with Benedict Cumberbatch. IMO, Moffat's portrayal of Sherlock and Moriarty are so much more superior and believable than the recent movie's portrayal (though I can't comment on their take on Moriarty yet). From what I've read the new episodes are going to air on the BBC on January 1st. I can't wait.
Posted December 28, 2011
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Gonchi: Actually, in the stories Sherlock Holmes is very strong and an adept boxer and fencer. Granted it didn't come up all that often, but him beating the living snot out of someone isn't completely out there.
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rampancy: From what I recall reading in interviews, the writers/director actually saw this version of Holmes as being very faithful to the original depiction of Holmes in Doyle's writings, and I was surprised that some of my friends who are avid Holmes fans actually agree. FWIW, I enjoyed the first movie as a decent popcorn action film with token detective elements in it, and I'm sure the second one will be no different.
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tarangwydion: I think Jared Harris is pretty good though, especially since the other Moriarty portrayal I remember watching is that *shudder* clown from The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie.
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rampancy: The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was goofy and over the top (but I actually found the graphic novel series even more *delightfully* goofy and over the top), but yeah, I found Moriarty in that movie to be utterly forgettable.

The thing was, I actually didn't mind this version of Homes until I took up watching the Steven Moffat's "Sherlock", with Benedict Cumberbatch. IMO, Moffat's portrayal of Sherlock and Moriarty are so much more superior and believable than the recent movie's portrayal (though I can't comment on their take on Moriarty yet). From what I've read the new episodes are going to air on the BBC on January 1st. I can't wait.
"Sherlock" as in the modern remake? I love it, and I'm really impatient for the new episodes (especially since it ended on a cliffhanger).

I really enjoyed the first Holmes movie. It's true that the details and approach were different than the original Doyle stories, but I think it succeeded at translating the Sherlock Holmes spirit into a different style. And the chemistry between Law and Robert Downey Jr. helped to carry the whole thing along.

That said, I can see why Holmes fans cry foul, and if the second movie is as action-packed and crazy as it looks (I have yet to see it) I'm sure they'll have all the more reason. Still am looking forward to it, though, if only for the epic slo-mo and RD Jr.
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