Not true at all. "Conclusively proven?" not even close. Proven by who Kotaku reporting that Kotaku didn't do anything wrong? But this has been discussed so many times, no point going through it again.

Nope, just another snotty uptight lady spewing out unproven "proofs" in between her random insults...

There, you're doing it again. She is not even 1% of the GamerGate topic, yet you brought her up again. Why would GamerGate change their tag because of some lunatics who are not even part of it?

No worries then.

Whatever, I have absolutely no interest in her sexual life, in fact I have absolutely no interest in her private life, at all. So IDPS about any proofs or not proofs about what she did or not with her body, the same for your opinion about me.

This topic serves only to push someone into the public eye who has stepped back. She has nothing to do with the consumer revolt known as Gamergate, she's not a journalist or anything that Gamergate focuses on. There are two topics already about the subject, don't drag her back into this.

If you really want to have an in-depth, sober look at the whole situation, read this forum post.

tl;dr #GamerGate is a hashtag that you can add to every troll post, rant, critique or anything else gaming related, to make your troll post/rant/critique/whatever political and meaningful.

Did I summarize this well? Sorry, I did read the whole wall of text and I'm still not sure if I understand anything about this GamerGate thing :( Zoe Quinn had sex with journalists and suddenly "trolling" is a movement? Gamers have been like this all the time (at least the vocal ones on the internet). Why is it something special now? Because of a hashtag?

edit: typo...

Kind of.

The Tl;DR history is that Zoe Quinn's bitter ex fed 4chan a bunch of lies, including that she'd slept around for positive reviews (spoiler: she didn't - that organization didn't even review her game) and started a campaign of harassment against Quinn. Then some game journalists wrote pieces saying 'The demographics of gaming are changing, and young male players are a smaller and smaller part of it', clearly aimed at the people harassing Quinn, Sarkeesian, Kathy Sierra, etc. And the young, male (or old, crazy, male) gamers on 4chan went nuts about 'ethics in game journalism'.

Then everything dissolved into a cesspool of misogyny and hatred. There are still people who claim it really is about 'ethics', but that ignores:
1) It didn't start that way, and GGers openly acknowledged it was about Zoe Quinn.
2) The only concrete result is that people who support equal rights have been harassed, threatened and driven out of their homes.
3) I have yet to hear a GGer refer to actual journalistic ethics like the Associated Press rules, citation requirements, how the sports press manages ties between players and journalists, or basically anything besides RAGEWOMENRAGEEARAGERAGERAGE. Oh, sometimes when people report them for abuse they complain about free speech (spoiler: free speech applies to governmental actions, not Twitter's rules on cussing people out), but I can't really count that as informed and intelligent ethical debate.

http://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=GamerGate Here, it's a Wiki that basically outlines a lot of the stuff that's been happening in Gamergate. I think the only thing missing is the Press Dossier that was created, I'll see if I can dig that up.

IMHO is not exactly like this.

Quinn rage was exactly like this, but some other stuff came into action.

Sarkesian opportunistic and nuts view of video games helped much to this situation. Many people, instead of critic her "work"? started to harass her, giving non credit to the good critics. So many teenagers and not so teenager men, seem were really pretty angry in the moment the Quinn thing appeared. No excuses, they did wrong, but Sarkesian was also wrong, so part of the people that criticizes radical feminism is not on harassment or in the GG movement.

Then opportunistic from every place appear to join the "flame war", best example is Brianna Wu with her crappy game, or Baldwin with his ultra-conservative ideas, the other side of the radical-feminism.

And the last piece of the puzzle is the lame articles as "Gamers are dead" , that in an "EPIC" way to defend Quinn and others, some "smart" journalists wrote online, raging not only the people that is inside GG, harassers and not harassers, but also the people that we will always will consider ourselves as NORMAL people for playing games, and I can call myself GAMER if i want, and I don't deserve any insult, or crap article for the same pages I helped for years to be were they are. More when I NEVER did nothing vs any women, in terms of discrimination or harrasement in my whole life, and as me, MANY.

I unfollowed, delete from rss, and unliked, and stopped reading all that magazines the same day I needed to read that "orders" about what I need to do to be considered as a GOOD GUY in the industry, that was written maybe with good intentions, but pointing to the wrong people, the same thing for my admired Felicia Day, that dissapointed me so much when she wrote that thing about meeting people with Gaming Tshirts on the streets in the past, and automatically consider them PALS... sic... and now have "fear" ... I never think someone is the devil for wearing a Call of Duty T-shirt , and also I could never consider he or she is a "PAL" and we share "Something" just because we consume the same crap... CHILDISH

From the post you linked Are you fucking kidding me? Women are little more than walking incubators. They have fewer rights than clumps of cells inside them. Link this turd unironically when and only when men are forced to have a colonoscopy when they want to buy Viagra.

edit: news of the now: Now where in the world is the shit-eater you linked, according to its profile?

Not going to argue with a zealot with oppression fantasies, but for those interested, here are some links:

In Making Campuses Safe for Women, a Travesty of Justice for Men (Christina Hoff Sommers)
http://chronicle.com/article/In-Making-Campuses-Safe-for/127766/

Rape culture panic is not the answer (Christina Hoff Sommers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKgrYVtYSCk

Also, here's a nicely written bit from Wikipedia: [73] http://rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape
[74] http://rainn.org/images/03-2014/WH-Task-Force-RAINN-Recommendations.pdf

Did you read my OP, at all, I wonder? Or the theard it was necessitated by?

I find it bloody ungracious to perpetuate an internet persecution campaign, because I like these fora very much.

I PM'ed the OP'er to ask why he/she did it - he/she hever replied.

And trust me, my boy, your female relatives hopefully ask not yer opinion as to their gaming hobby - we are half of the gaming crowed, so essentially, we fund half of the industry. Care to invite them to join the thread? I hardly think they need your "protection" to have an opinion, eh? ;-)


Edit< add "fora" to second paragraph, lest the message be lost.

And what is your opinion, for what it matters? Or this be yer "lowest common demonolater" sort of digne, to get bit of rep, eh? ;-)