tremere110: You essentially have infinite ammo clips. Your gun can run out of shots but you can spend an AP to reload. I remember most quality weapons in the PnP RPG being equipped with biometrics or kill switches so you really couldn't loot corpses of anything really good anyways - so I find unlootable or minimally lootable corpses more realistic to the setting.

tremere110: You essentially have infinite ammo clips. Your gun can run out of shots but you can spend an AP to reload. I remember most quality weapons in the PnP RPG being equipped with biometrics or kill switches so you really couldn't loot corpses of anything really good anyways - so I find unlootable or minimally lootable corpses more realistic to the setting.

Crosmando: I haven't been able to work up the will to finish Dead Man's Switch yet. I don't mind linear if the hubs are freely explorable and have side-quests, but this takes linear to a whole new level.

The game has a cool intro set-up, but once you get out of the Morgue and into the Seattle streets, it doesn't take long to realize just how tiny and boxed-in the maps are, once you realize that the only thing to do on each map is talk to the people the game wants you to talk to, and go to the locations the game wants you to progress, it immediately starts feeling really artificial quick. The dialogues and music are the only thing that really kept me playing.

I might try and finish it when the next campaign comes out to import my Mage. I can only hope that the main campaign is basically a tech demo of the editor and the real awesomeness is yet to come in the form of conversions of official Shadowrun modules by fans, I also note that SRR is the top-seller on Steam so I hope they put that money to good use and make some bigger OPEN adventures for us.

There's some sparks of goodness in the main campaign though, the "puzzle" with getting into Coyote's computer was interesting because you can actually bypass that entirely by using Decking to hack the computer (I wasn't playing a Decker). I also have been able to bribe my way out of a few encounters that could have turned ugly. So there is definitely the possibly for some alternate solutions.

Not sure about that character system though, very boring, anyone know if the editor can change it?

stonebro: A Tex Murphy mod for Shadowrun Returns you say? Hmmmm ...

StingingVelvet: Yeah I think it's an option, when I started the mod campaign it asked me if I wanted to.

Speaking of mod campaigns I played "Lost Lamb" and it was interesting. It was short but it took place in a city area with lots of going back and forth from a bar to a shop and apartments and whatnot. So all that stuff is certainly possible despite not being in the official campaign.

F1ach: I like RPG's but I never played XCOM so that isnt a useful point of reference for me, I liked fallout (yeah even Tactics), is there any point in me getting this game?

KOC: Sounds good, it's the only thing wrong with the campaign the game ships with as far as I'm concerned (well except for the save system!)
KOC: It's similar to fallout in many ways but much more linear

F1ach: I like RPG's but I never played XCOM so that isnt a useful point of reference for me, I liked fallout (yeah even Tactics), is there any point in me getting this game?

jamsatle: Fallout Tactics had much the same stat building as the regular Fallouts, I think. Skill tagging and perks and so on.

nijuu: mustn't be too bad if so many goggites bought it or backed it.at this point should ppl who havent dived in, is campaign worth it, or should we go in expecting the modding scene will be the main draw card? ie as was case for Nwn?

StingingVelvet: Fallout tactics would be a good point of reference. Jagged Alliance as well. It's like those games but with more dialogue and perhaps more stat building, I forget the extent of that in Fallout Tactics.