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Nafe: Yeah, I got that - mine was sarcastic too :).
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JudasIscariot: I had to check because of the sensitivity of the topic you know! :-)

Hah, suffice it to say, I'm not the most sensitive of chaps so you don't need to be too concerned about that.
I am interested to hear what TheCheese33, or anyone else who disagrees with homosexuality for that matter, has to say about it. I can't think of a rational/logical reason to take issue with it, so I'm intrigued to hear peoples viewpoints if they're capable of putting them across without just spouting silly abuse.
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JudasIscariot: I had to check because of the sensitivity of the topic you know! :-)
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Nafe: Hah, suffice it to say, I'm not the most sensitive of chaps so you don't need to be too concerned about that.
I am interested to hear what TheCheese33, or anyone else who disagrees with homosexuality for that matter, has to say about it. I can't think of a rational/logical reason to take issue with it, so I'm intrigued to hear peoples viewpoints if they're capable of putting them across without just spouting silly abuse.

You're right! It is TheCheese's turn now!
my girlfriend says she isn't for homosexuality, it's kind of odd that she has gay friends, and is friends with my brother. I don't understand why, and I've asked her and she says "it's not what god intended." and then I ask her "So you think these gay people are suffering in the afterlife?" and she's all "there is no afterlife." and I'm like "well if there is no afterlife what is the point of living and learning? why would there be a god?" and she's all "i don't know!"
she's been really spacey on her beliefs as of late.
There's no special reason for anyone to not be gay, just as there's no special reason for anyone to not be straight. just do what you want, nobody is going to say which is better, it's like saying "oh catholicism is better than islam."
It might be what's better for you, but it isn't a universal truth that fits to everyone.
the only way I could say "eh, being gay isn't right." is if you're in an area of people who are violently homophobic, in which case I'd say "you better be straight or else these whackjobs are going to kill you, and then spend the rest of their days rotting in jail, getting pounded in the bootay tay themselves."
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Weclock: "it's not what god intended."
"there is no afterlife."

Tell your girlfriend to make up her mind. She can't believe both.
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Weclock: "it's not what god intended."
"there is no afterlife."
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Wishbone: Tell your girlfriend to make up her mind. She can't believe both.
I've tried to discuss it with her previously, but she has some bad PMS and typically the only times it becomes a topic of discussion is during those times, so I generally just go "you win!" and hide in my little fort with my macbook and wireless internet..
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Weclock: the only way I could say "eh, being gay isn't right." is if you're in an area of people who are violently homophobic, in which case I'd say "you better be straight or else these whackjobs are going to kill you, and then spend the rest of their days rotting in jail, getting pounded in the bootay tay themselves."

I very much doubt a gay guy could turn, just as I couldn't turn gay. I could technically perform the acts, but that wouldn't make me enjoy them or actually be gay. Though in the situation you explained above I guess it might make sense to conceal their sexuality, but that wouldn't change what they are. I expect that's what you meant and I'm just being pedantic.
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Weclock: Also, Laws maybe supersede any arbitrary rules made by corporations and individuals, however in this case it is their own right to terminate service with a customer. Regardless of the reason, it doesn't have to be stated. Microsoft certainly can't force her to do something, but they certainly can refuse service to her.

Actually there are certain reasons that companies may not use to refuse service to people. Race, sex, and religion are fairly universal, at least in the US and most of Europe, while sexual orientation varies by locale. Refusing service to people based upon these reasons opens a company up to civil suits, as well as the possibility of fines. Sometimes companies try to hide discriminatory practices by giving an alternative reason they refused service or simply not giving a reason at all, but if a strong enough case can be made for what their actual reason was then they can still be held liable for discriminatory practices.
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TheCheese33: I don't think having sexual relationships with the same sex is right
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Nafe: Do you mind if I ask why? I'm always interested to see why intelligent people disagree with it.

Part of my religion. Don't want to go into more details, because I don't want to sound like some ignorant, Bible-pushing zealot. Sometimes, when I look around at other people in my so-called "Christian" town of Southlake, I wonder why I follow Christianity in the first place.
This girl died in a car crash a few months back. My church held the funeral, and they made the mistake of allowing anyone who wanted to attend to miss school that day. What was meant to be a somber event quickly turned into the social gathering of the week. When my friend told this story to me (it was his girlfriend who died), he had a look in his eyes that's haunted me for quite a while now.
I personally am agnostic, but if I was of a christian faith, I'd probably believe that reproduction is a sin.
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Wishbone: Tell your girlfriend to make up her mind. She can't believe both.
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Weclock: I've tried to discuss it with her previously, but she has some bad PMS and typically the only times it becomes a topic of discussion is during those times, so I generally just go "you win!" and hide in my little fort with my macbook and wireless internet..

I reckon PMS is a myth, women only use it to win arguments.
For the whole religious thing, have a look on youtube for athiest videos, pat condell's are usually interesting and amusing
I read the original piece on Consumerist, and it hurts. I wonder if stating you're a metrosexual gets you banned?
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michaelleung: I read the original piece on Consumerist, and it hurts. I wonder if stating you're a metrosexual gets you banned?

Should get you a kick in the bollocks but not banned
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TheCheese33: Part of my religion. Don't want to go into more details

Fair enough.
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michaelleung: I read the original piece on Consumerist, and it hurts. I wonder if stating you're a metrosexual gets you banned?
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Aliasalpha: Should get you a kick in the bollocks but not banned

Hahaha!!!
My sentiments exactly.
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Weclock: I personally am agnostic, but if I was of a christian faith, I'd probably believe that reproduction is a sin.

Then you do not understand Christianity. Try reading Genesis 1:28 where God's words to Adam and Eve are, "Be fruitful and multiply."
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Nafe: I very much doubt a gay guy could turn, just as I couldn't turn gay. I could technically perform the acts, but that wouldn't make me enjoy them or actually be gay. Though in the situation you explained above I guess it might make sense to conceal their sexuality, but that wouldn't change what they are. I expect that's what you meant and I'm just being pedantic.

This sounds good on the surface, but it is like saying, only those who steal habitually or like it are, real thieves. But for you, if you went through the act of stealing and dislike it; then you would not be a thief.
If I steal I am a thief even if I say, "But I did not like it while I was doing it".
Post edited March 02, 2009 by Faithful