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OldFatGuy: But it turns out there's TWO other outputs on it, a Display Port and an HDMI. They were covered with this hard black plastic and not labeled and I just thought they were some part of the card, not outputs. You pull them off and voila, an HDMI and a Display Port output.
Just in the future look at pictures of the card on Newegg to make sure it has the ports you want or need. That's what I usually do. If I find one that removes a legacy port, such as the damned VGA port, I will usually purchase it if it's comparable and priced similarly.
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OldFatGuy: But it turns out there's TWO other outputs on it, a Display Port and an HDMI. They were covered with this hard black plastic and not labeled and I just thought they were some part of the card, not outputs. You pull them off and voila, an HDMI and a Display Port output.
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jjsimp: Just in the future look at pictures of the card on Newegg to make sure it has the ports you want or need. That's what I usually do. If I find one that removes a legacy port, such as the damned VGA port, I will usually purchase it if it's comparable and priced similarly.
LOL, I just went and looked at my Amazon order (usually buy at Newegg too but this one was cheaper at Amazon at the time). I used the snipping tool to show how obvious it is right there on my order that they include HDMI outputs.

Like I said, I'm a moron. lol

NOTE: Blacked out name and address just for safety reasons, nothing personal.
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Post edited August 28, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: NOTE: Blacked out name and address just for safety reasons, nothing personal.
Yeah, I usually look at the difference at Amazon. Usually because two-day shipping is free for prime members, I use Amazon.
It probably would have been easier to highlight your address in paint using the select tool and then hit cut or the delete key. I can humorously see you moved the mouse left and right like 200 times with the drawing tool.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by jjsimp
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OldFatGuy: NOTE: Blacked out name and address just for safety reasons, nothing personal.
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jjsimp: Yeah, I usually look at the difference at Amazon. Usually because two-day shipping is free for prime members, I use Amazon.
It probably would have been easier to highlight your address in paint using the select tool and then hit cut or the delete key. I can humorously see you moved the mouse left and right like 200 times with the drawing tool.
Yeah, I just did it in the snipping tool. I could only find limited options there. Probably would've been quicker to load it up in Paint and use those tools. lol
Post edited August 28, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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Coelocanth: LOL - no worries. I actually did the exact same thing once. Couldn't find the port on my card because it had a plastic cover over it. Glad you got it sorted though. Now install those puppies and get that rig rolling.

*is jealous of OFGs 760s*
So, I remove the two 560ti's, put one 760 in, hook up the HDMI cable, and...

The initial splash screen comes up with the option to hit DELETE to load BIOS or hit F7 to go to the BOOT MENU (Neither of which work BTW).

And there it stays, with the number 62 in the LED readout. It stays there awhile, then the screen goes blank except for blinking cursor at the upper left hand corner. And there it remains, never changing. With the same number 62 in the LED readout on the motherboard.

Attached is the error codes for the LED readout on my motherboard.

Any ideas???

Tried the other 760, got the same exact result.

Next, gonna put the 560ti back in.

And I put the 560ti back in and works like it was above.

I don't know if this is a faulty motherboard, or just a complete piece of shit motherboard (meaning it 'works' it just wasn't ever engineered well in the first place).

And while the 560ti was in, I went ahead and uninstalled the drivers, thinking that may be an issue, put the 760 back in, and THE SAME OLD SHIT. Stays on the opening splash screen way too long (and won't interpret any keys you hit if you do try to go into BIOS) and then the screen goes blank except for a blinking cursor in the top left corner of the screen. Where it stays this way no matter how long I leave it.

With the number 62 on the motherboard's LED troubleshooting readout.
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OldFatGuy: Attached is the error codes for the LED readout on my motherboard.

Any ideas???
Do a BIOS update?
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OldFatGuy: Attached is the error codes for the LED readout on my motherboard.

Any ideas???
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Maighstir: Do a BIOS update?
Perhaps, but not with this motherboard.

I have no doubt now that this motherboard is a piece of shit. Now what I do NOT know is whether this is basically true of all/most of these limited edition motherboards or if this is just one bad apple.

I do know this, this one is a piece of shit. I posted the original symptoms a few weeks ago and was told it was likely a bad motherboard. Upon more troubleshooting I guess I almost convinced myself it wasn't, but the final straw was that I just noticed that it's not recognizing all of memory anymore. Doesn't matter how many sticks I put in, or in which slots, it always comes up 16GB memory despite being 32GB. (PLEASE: Before anyone runs in and mentions Windows, YES I have Windows Professional, and YES it used to recognize 32GB of memory).

With all of these weird symptoms, this motherboard is a piece of shit. My only choice now is whether or not to go ahead and RMA it or just go ahead and bite the bullet and buy a MB from a more reputable company. At this moment I'm leaning toward buying a new MSI. The self build I helped with my nephew was an MSI motherboard, and I've got to tell you, that was the smoothest, easiest to understand and use BIOS I've EVER encountered, and I've been using computers since the 1970's. That and the fact that he's had it several weeks now without so much as a single crash, well I'm looking strong at just buying me a new MB rather than RMA this one.

One thing I AM going to do is go to Newegg and do a review. I'm going to share this nightmare.

Stay away from ECS motherboards folks. It's not worth the effort. Just avoid them.
Sucks to hear, but at least you found the culprit. You could always purchase a new one, RMA the old one, and then sell the replacement you get on ebay. Not sure if Newegg will do a trade in for a different motherboard. They used to, but I have heard their customer service has gone to shit.

I usually stick to manufacturers I know and trust, Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI. Not another one out there that tempts me due to price or features. I had my share of cheap motherboards and other cheap components. Most of those trying to help out a friend that wanted a computer, but wanted to save a few bucks. It usually ended up bad or the computer just lasted long enough to get through the warranty. After my last experience helping a friend out and having to RMA three different components, I decided enough with the cheap shit. If someone wants to save money on X component they can go find someone else to purchase, build, and/or eventually troubleshoot.

Also, be wary about your memory sticks. Run memtest on the set and make sure you don't have a bad stick in the computer. Not saying that is your problem, but you never know if you have more than one problem.
Post edited August 29, 2013 by jjsimp
Looks like I may be done with Newegg too.

Did my review, met all the rules/guidelines, submitted it over an hour ago, got the message it was received, and....

not showing up.

Funny that. If you add up all the current reviews of this motherboard, it comes out with an average of 3.6 eggs. So, four eggs (rounding I guess) shows up as the average. If you add my review, the average drops to 3.45 eggs, so rounding would drop the average to 3.

Mmmmmmmmmmm.....

If folks reading this think this sounds like conspiracy theory lunacy, then you haven't paid attention to the way big business does things, especially in this data age. Not saying it IS the answer, saying it's awfully funny how my review would drop it's average to 3 eggs instead of 4 and how coincidentally it's not showing up. I recall someone once saying "there are no coincidences".

BTW, the reason my review would drop the average one egg is because there are only 10 current reviews for this board, mine would have been the 11th.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135304
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jjsimp: Also, be wary about your memory sticks. Run memtest on the set and make sure you don't have a bad stick in the computer. Not saying that is your problem, but you never know if you have more than one problem.
Put 8GB sticks 1 and 2 into memory slots A and C. 16GB memory installed.

Put 8GB sticks 1 and 2 into memory slots B and D. 16GB memory installed.

Put 8GB sticks 3 and 4 into memory slots A and C. 16GB memory installed.

Put 8GB sticks 3 and 4 into memory slots B and D. 16GB memory installed.

Put 8GB sticks 1, 2, 3, and 4 into memory slots A, B, C, and D. 16GB memory installed.

Doesn't seem to me that it's likely anything to do with the memory sticks.
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jjsimp: Also, be wary about your memory sticks. Run memtest on the set and make sure you don't have a bad stick in the computer. Not saying that is your problem, but you never know if you have more than one problem.
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OldFatGuy: Doesn't seem to me that it's likely anything to do with the memory sticks.
I meant with a program like memtest, just because it sees the memory installed does not make the stick good.
I've started testing my RAM when I get it, as after finding a bad motherboard I had a lot of lock ups. Ended up finding one of the slots on the motherboard was bad, and then after transferring to a new system had the same problem. Only this time it was the RAM itself.
Post edited August 29, 2013 by jjsimp
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OldFatGuy: Doesn't seem to me that it's likely anything to do with the memory sticks.
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jjsimp: I meant with a program like memtest, just because it sees the memory installed does not make the stick good.
I've started testing my RAM when I get it, as after finding a bad motherboard I had a lot of lock ups. Ended up finding one of the slots on the motherboard was bad, and then after transferring to a new system had the same problem. Only this time it was the RAM itself.
The issue isn't whether it's good or not. I memtested this memory for over 24 hours when I first purchased.

The issue is how much is being recognized. It's only recognizing 16GB despite having 32GB physically installed, AND despite recognizing each stick as being 8GB, and any combination of the two as being 16GB. Why would it recognize any one stick as having 8GB of memory, any two sticks as having 16GB, yet all four as still only 16GB if the stick is bad??? If the stick is that bad, then it shouldn't recognize it when it's one of the two making up the 16GB tests I described above??
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OldFatGuy: The issue isn't whether it's good or not. I memtested this memory for over 24 hours when I first purchased.

The issue is how much is being recognized. It's only recognizing 16GB despite having 32GB physically installed, AND despite recognizing each stick as being 8GB, and any combination of the two as being 16GB. Why would it recognize any one stick as having 8GB of memory, any two sticks as having 16GB, yet all four as still only 16GB if the stick is bad??? If the stick is that bad, then it shouldn't recognize it when it's one of the two making up the 16GB tests I described above??
Ah, I see where the confusion lies. I didn't mean to infer that was causing that error. Most likely your motherboard is indeed bad. I was just warning you for your future motherboard. If you should happen to have further problems, memtest check your memory to make sure you didn't have two faults. I'm sure any memory in the failed slots of your faulty motherboard will fail.
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jjsimp: Ah, I see where the confusion lies. I didn't mean to infer that was causing that error. Most likely your motherboard is indeed bad. I was just warning you for your future motherboard. If you should happen to have further problems, memtest check your memory to make sure you didn't have two faults. I'm sure any memory in the failed slots of your faulty motherboard will fail.
Oh, okay, so I guess I was assuming right above when I mentioned if the stick(s) were bad enough not to be recognized when all four were in then they should be bad enough not to be recognized when only two were in. That's what I was thinking. Thank you for confirming.

And anyone that read my Newegg comment above please understand this was MY BAD, not Newegg. It turns out they said reviews don't show up for one business day. I was not aware of this and spoke too soon.

Sorry.

Also, too, GOOD NEWS ON STEAM!!!!

Today is day 15 of Experiment Two, and I have already tried verified the ability to play games today. Now my hopes are getting even higher. I will continue to check daily for awhile, but if still successful I will change to just checking weekly or so as I attempt to go over a year. Boy this would change my mind about Steam 180 degrees. I'm not a big fan of any DRM, but can live with having to register online as long as once registered I can play games I OWN any time after that without further restrictions such as recurrent or full time internet access.
Post edited August 29, 2013 by OldFatGuy
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OldFatGuy: Also, too, GOOD NEWS ON STEAM!!!!

Today is day 15 of Experiment Two, and I have already tried verified the ability to play games today. Now my hopes are getting even higher. I will continue to check daily for awhile, but if still successful I will change to just checking weekly or so as I attempt to go over a year. Boy this would change my mind about Steam 180 degrees. I'm not a big fan of any DRM, but can live with having to register online as long as once registered I can play games I OWN any time after that without further restrictions such as recurrent or full time internet access.
Make me wonder if it changes if steam notices you have an internet connection. Because I turned my to offline mode the night before and the next day I had problems using it. But I did continue browsing online after turning it to offline mode.
Are you turning it off every night, or leaving it in sleep or hibernate mode?