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Hi there,
I love that fact this is a "General Forum"... I don't really need to be using "OT" on my posts :)
Anyway I've recently invested in an Ipod Touch and I have an old Wireless Router lying around. I've just spent several hours trying to set the wireless without success. So now we have Question and Answer time. I'll Question and hopefully you'll Answer.
I have a D-link DSL-502T Modem and a D-link RTW 026 Wireless Lan Access Point/Router/Switch. Both were free.
1/ Can I have my PC using the internet through the hard connection while there is a wireless network set up for my Ipod (and my PSP)?
2/ How do I do this? I believe I need to set the Wireless Router to PPPoA MC Vux with my ISP name and password. I then set the modem to bridge mode. The adsl phone line goes into the modem. A network cable from the modem to the router's WAN port. Then another network cable from the LAN Port (using L1) to my PC's ethernet port.
This does not work. I don't know a great deal about networking and next to nothing about wireless.
Can anyone offer assitance?
Eidt: Thanks Lukas - The Router is 026 not 206. I've corrected it :)
Karl
Post edited March 21, 2009 by Karlallen
1) yes
2) Why do you need to set anything? Do you need a password when you connect to internet directly via modem?
I have wireless network at home. four computers connected.
What I did.
Cable internet.
From cable to modem.
from modem to wireless router.
First time connected one computer via cable. Run set up wirless network. it did that automatically. then i set up a password on wirless network.
viola. works without problem.
altogether 7 different computers were connected to the internet in the course of 2 years.
reset the modem and just let it do its job. (oh. I also have D-link router)
edit: what kind of wireless router you have? cause http://www.dlink.com.au/ simply does not have RTW 206
Post edited March 21, 2009 by lukaszthegreat
Some are automatic, but it may be worth going to the modem/router (10.0.0.138 or something like that, check what your PC is set to when plugged directly in to the modem), and making sure it's not being blocked.
example: When I got my new ADSL2+ modem, my D-link wireless router, would not do anything until it was given permission for the modems DHCP settings.
Also, check that a wireless key (WEP/WPA/WPA2) is not set to something you don't know.
edit: I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but the Wireless device should be connected to the modem, the modem dials out. Not dialing out with the wireless point. If your modem is set to your ISP, it should handle all devices (including everything at the wireless point) for you.
Post edited March 21, 2009 by Ois
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Ois: Some are automatic, but it may be worth going to the modem/router (10.0.0.138 or something like that, check what your PC is set to when plugged directly in to the modem), and making sure it's not being blocked.
example: When I got my new ADSL2+ modem, my D-link wireless router, would not do anything until it was given permission for the modems DHCP settings.
Also, check that a wireless key (WEP/WPA/WPA2) is not set to something you don't know.
edit: I'm not sure if I'm reading you right, but the Wireless device should be connected to the modem, the modem dials out. Not dialing out with the wireless point. If your modem is set to your ISP, it should handle all devices (including everything at the wireless point) for you.

I just read your "Edit" section. I thought the ADSL Modem needs to be in Bridge mode. Or does the wireless router need to be in bridge mode?
Currently there is no WEP key set up as when trying to sort everything out it was annoying to type into the Ipod.
Karl
Post edited March 21, 2009 by Karlallen
I would bridge the wireless device. PPPoA is handled by your main modem, and it sounds like you just want the wireless device to simply pass anything on it receives to the modem, thus your ISP.
disclaimer: Note that my networking skills are more directed more at an an administration & maintenance side. But this is as I understand it. Someone else here could give better details on what is going on behind the scenes.
Post edited March 21, 2009 by Ois
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Ois: I would bridge the wireless device. PPPoA is handled by your main modem, and it sounds like you just want the wireless device to simply pass anything on it receives to the modem, thus your ISP.

That actually makes sense. I was thinking the "bridging" is to use the ADSL modem to bridge the ISP to the wireless... But you're saying the bridging would be to bridge the ipod to the modem via the router... I'll go try that now. Sleep is for the weak.
Karl
Suggested steps
-Crossover cable from wireless router to modem router
-Wireless router's gateway set to IP address of modem router & DNS server addresses set as per ISP instructions
-Wireless router's DHCP server (if used) should pass on IP addresses to wireless devices as they join and auto-set the gateway & dns settings that it uses
I'd also suggest using MAC address filtering if the wireless router supports it, entering the MAC address of the devices manually into the routers MAC address table and setting it to permit only those devices will stop anyone casually finding your access point and just jumping on to waste your internet bandwidth.
Changing the default SSID and turning off the SSID broadcast will also help stop people casually getting in.
Neither MAC filtering or disabling the SSID broadcast make it impossible for people to access your network, (in fact its relatively easy to break both) but in order to get in, someone needs to know what they're doing so the general public is unlikely to do it and scriptkiddies will have a notably harder time.
Tried all the above. I think I just don't know enough to do this.
I'll have to see if I can find someone at work who might be able to show me.
Thank you all anyway however I'm giving up as I've tried for about 5 or 6 hours now.
Karl
Post edited March 21, 2009 by Karlallen
Try putting the cable from the wireless router to the modem router into regular ports rather than the WAN one
There should be absolutely no bridging, that's for something else. Assuming the ADSL modem works when plugged in to your PC direct, you just pop the cable in to the WAN port of your router, make sure the router is configured for DHCP with its net connection, and save/restart both devices (ADSL modem first).
Your ADSL modem should then provide an external IP address directly to the router which should NAT it (network address translation) to a local IP address to devices connected. After that you can set up the wireless and it should go straight through.
i have a linksys wrt54g v5 router
and a motorola sb5120.
what I did: plugged the ethernet cord from the modem into the router, plugged an ethernet cord from the router into my computer
how it works: my wireles computers work, my wii works, when i used a ds and psp they worked, my zune works, and my wired computers work
how is this possible: standard default settings allow for this
what else i did: i run ddwrt. :D
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Weclock: how is this possible: standard default settings allow for this

Ahh home implementation of DHCP, the champion of the lazy...
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Nafe: There should be absolutely no bridging, that's for something else. Assuming the ADSL modem works when plugged in to your PC direct, you just pop the cable in to the WAN port of your router, make sure the router is configured for DHCP with its net connection, and save/restart both devices (ADSL modem first).
Your ADSL modem should then provide an external IP address directly to the router which should NAT it (network address translation) to a local IP address to devices connected. After that you can set up the wireless and it should go straight through.

I'll give it another go. Where you have "pop the cable into the WAN port of your router".. Is this the network cable from the computer or the cable from the ADSL?
Karl
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Karlallen: I'll give it another go. Where you have "pop the cable into the WAN port of your router".. Is this the network cable from the computer or the cable from the ADSL?
Karl

OK, Phone line to ADSL Modem. Ethernet (network) cable from ADSL Modem to Wireless Router WAN port. Another Ethernet cable from one of the 4 router ports to the PC.
That's what you should need to get things set up for your PC. Once that's working correctly, just configure your wireless and any wireless devices accessing it should work fine.
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Karlallen: I'll give it another go. Where you have "pop the cable into the WAN port of your router".. Is this the network cable from the computer or the cable from the ADSL?
Karl
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Nafe: OK, Phone line to ADSL Modem. Ethernet (network) cable from ADSL Modem to Wireless Router WAN port. Another Ethernet cable from one of the 4 router ports to the PC.
That's what you should need to get things set up for your PC. Once that's working correctly, just configure your wireless and any wireless devices accessing it should work fine.

Hmm... That's how it's set up. As it doesn't work I'm assuming there is a setting problem then...Oh well it's really difficult to this over a phone let alone a forum post :P
Karl