Posted February 26, 2012
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bazilisek
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AlKim
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From Finland
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Iain
Going Retro
Registered: Oct 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 26, 2012
Taken from the official Nvidia spec sheet on the 560Ti :
Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 99 C
Graphics Card Power (W) 170 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 500 W
Supplementary Power Connectors Two 6-pin
So you want to be looking at 500 Watt bare minimum so 600 Watt sounds reasonable by the time you get everything else in to your box
Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 99 C
Graphics Card Power (W) 170 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 500 W
Supplementary Power Connectors Two 6-pin
So you want to be looking at 500 Watt bare minimum so 600 Watt sounds reasonable by the time you get everything else in to your box
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Navagon
Easily Persuaded
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted February 26, 2012
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That HP rig is typical in that it includes a lot of crap you don't need. For instance, why would you want a reduced functionality Office when you can download a fully functional Libre Office for free? I'd also recommend the 560 ti over the 550.
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Psyringe
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Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted February 26, 2012
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I've got a pretty decent gaming build and I've got a 400 or 450 Watt PSU (can't remember off the top of my head). Never had a problem.
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Curious question: Are you serious? No offense, but if you state that 750W are "normal" for nowadays computers, and (when asked what you need those for) answer with hard drives of all things, it makes me wonder ...
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NoH
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Registered: Feb 2012
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Posted February 26, 2012
So with your logic i'm not a serious gamer cause I don't like Battlefield 3? That sounds kinda lame don't you think ;)
Damn this youngster only see graphics in games...
But if grog004 is only intending to play "serious GOG games" I'd guess he'd be fine with almost any computer configuration. Except if he wants to play Witcher 2 then. =P
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bazilisek
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Posted February 26, 2012
Well, the visual difference between no antialiasing at all and 4xAA is much greater than between 8xAA and 16xAA. You don't have to run games at their absolutely maximum settings to achieve noticeably better graphical performance than the consoles can do, not to mention high-res textures.
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Egotomb
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Registered: Jan 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted February 26, 2012
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Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 99 C
Graphics Card Power (W) 170 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 500 W
Supplementary Power Connectors Two 6-pin
So you want to be looking at 500 Watt bare minimum so 600 Watt sounds reasonable by the time you get everything else in to your box
PS seems Psyringe partly beat me to it but anyway.
Post edited February 26, 2012 by Egotomb
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spinefarm
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From United Kingdom
Posted February 26, 2012
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Curious question: Are you serious? No offense, but if you state that 750W are "normal" for nowadays computers, and (when asked what you need those for) answer with hard drives of all things, it makes me wonder ...
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2
I just prefer to have more power...than have not enough power ;)
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AlKim
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Registered: Sep 2010
From Finland
Posted February 26, 2012
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Curious question: Are you serious? No offense, but if you state that 750W are "normal" for nowadays computers, and (when asked what you need those for) answer with hard drives of all things, it makes me wonder ...
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2011/12/256387b6d8c82e67d61aea782954d28a9364198f_t.jpg)
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2
I just prefer to have more power...than have not enough power ;)
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bazilisek
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Posted February 26, 2012
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CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2
I just prefer to have more power...than have not enough power ;)
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Iain
Going Retro
Registered: Oct 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 26, 2012
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Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) 99 C
Graphics Card Power (W) 170 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) 500 W
Supplementary Power Connectors Two 6-pin
So you want to be looking at 500 Watt bare minimum so 600 Watt sounds reasonable by the time you get everything else in to your box
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PS seems Psyringe partly beat me to it but anyway.
A big part of it is actually getting a high quality PSU, that is a must regardless so you get a steady flow of power that wont spike and drop. Dont just buy any old cheap thing. You get something decent enough in quality then something like a 450 - 500 Watt would be enough.
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spinefarm
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Psyringe
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Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted February 26, 2012
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Curious question: Are you serious? No offense, but if you state that 750W are "normal" for nowadays computers, and (when asked what you need those for) answer with hard drives of all things, it makes me wonder ...
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You're now saying that "normal high end machines" use 750W. While this isn't wrong, it's irrelevant to the discussion since (a) 600W are enough for the presented build, (b) 600W should be enough for pretty much all builds in that price range (it's hard to fit a graphics card that actually needs a 600W PSU into a 1000$ total budget), (c) the graphics card in the build uses comparatively little power, so criticizing the PSU total wattage makes no sense unless you say the graphics card should be switched out too, which you didn't, and (d) any 750W PSU added to the presented build would probably just add a second 12V rail which nothing in the build comes even close to be needing. Hence, I still don't understand your reasoning in this thread.
Side note: The PSU in the presented build probably isn't a good one, but it's not the max wattage that's the problem, 600W is perfectly okay for that build, it could go with much less if a decent PSU were used.
While this isn't a bad approach (skimping on the PSU is generally a bad idea), it will lead to bad decisions if you look only at the total wattage. People who focus on the total wattage often end up getting an inferior PSU that has power spikes/drops, doesn't perform reliable under peak wattage, or doesn't deliver enough power on the relevant voltage rails. In short: Paying attention to the PSU _is_ a good idea, but if you do it, you really have to look at the details. Paying attention to the PSU and _only_ focusing on total wattage may do more harm than good.
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Balious
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From United Kingdom