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Hi

was wondering, lets say I finished playing some no drm game I bought on gog.com, dont want to play it anymore, can I sell it and delete copy that is on my computer (that way it would be like I sold cd, tape whatever... of old school games, which is legal/ok)?

thanks in advance
No. Partially because you still have access to it (from the website).
Post edited September 10, 2013 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: No. Partially because you still have access to it (from the website).
yea, just loged in and noticed that :s

tbh, they might as well add option to remove game from library on website. as there is no drm, nothing can stop people that want to pirate games anyway.
or maybe option to transfer it to someone elses account. I mean gog doesnt lose anything, game is already bought, doesnt matter who owns the game after it was bought.
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zerospace: tbh, they might as well add option to remove game from library on website. as there is no drm, nothing can stop people that want to pirate games anyway.
or maybe option to transfer it to someone elses account. I mean gog doesnt lose anything, game is already bought, doesnt matter who owns the game after it was bought.
Perhaps, though I'd guess that such a move could be seen as "simplifying piracy" to the publishers they're already having enough trouble convincing to come on board.

But as it is, GOG's stance is "all sales are final", and "to give a gift, buy a gift code". Though there have been cases where people have got their money refunded for newly-bought games they nave not yet downloaded.
Yup, you are fully within your rights to sell your license, or transfer it as you see fit. HOWEVER, if you redownload the game from GOG, you have broken the law. People will tell you otherwise, but the bottom line is, you maintain the right of first sale over any and all media licenses.
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Maighstir: No. Partially because you still have access to it (from the website).
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zerospace: yea, just loged in and noticed that :s

tbh, they might as well add option to remove game from library on website. as there is no drm, nothing can stop people that want to pirate games anyway.
or maybe option to transfer it to someone elses account. I mean gog doesnt lose anything, game is already bought, doesnt matter who owns the game after it was bought.
Removing it from the library does not keep you from keeping the downloaded file on your hard rive and hence still having access to it. Of course there is no technical barrier that keeps you from handing a game to your friends or whomever but it seems understandable that GOG wouldn't be intrigued to try to make a business of it...
yea, but like I said, GOG are already relying on me/you... not to pirate game, there is no drm, I can copy it to usb and bring it to anyone I know, and all of them could play it without any issues
so they actualy wont lose anything if I can trasfer game to someone elses account.

doesnt matter if it is for free or I sell it to that someone else. gog got their money from me when I bought game.
and they can trust me I deleted it from my hard drive and didnt make any backups, same as they are trusting me I am not pirating that same game

back in the day, you could buy cassete/flopy/cd... with game. play it, then sell it, why cant we do same now with digital downloads? right now it feels like I paid to play, not own it. what happens to games when I die? who gets them? :)
Does not work with DRM free. It is arguably allowed within the new EU ruling (though it is still debatable how much it does actually apply), but it still have the caveat " the previous owner must no longer be able to use the licensed software after the resale". It is impossible to impose this without any form of rights management.
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zerospace: or maybe option to transfer it to someone elses account. I mean gog doesnt lose anything, game is already bought, doesnt matter who owns the game after it was bought.
Except that they lose the new sale from the one who bought the game from you, of course. And it is not only up to GOG, the game publisher(s) have to agree with such a practice too.

Anyway, if it would become a common practice to sell DRM-free GOG-games second hand, that would be a great incentive for the game publishers to pull their games from GOG and sell them on DRM-sites instead (where you can't sell the game to anyone else due to DRM). Try selling your Steam games to other people

GOG's DRM-free practice is a honor system, where they expect that you don't pirate nor sell the games, even though they are not technically trying to prevent it. If you don't honor the system, then shame on you, you are obviously then not a honorable person, but something between an amoeba and that green thing you scrape off the shoes.
that is why I am asking is it OK or not to sell
dont want to pirate
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zerospace: yea, but like I said, GOG are already relying on me/you... not to pirate game, there is no drm, I can copy it to usb and bring it to anyone I know, and all of them could play it without any issues
They (and the game publisher who agreed to release the game on GOG) are also relying on you not to sell it to someone else after you are "done". That's where the ultra low discount prices come from.

So you would be still misusing the honor system where there are no technical barriers. I think the DRM systems like Steam, which don't consider you as a honorable person (hence DRM to prevent you from doing anything they don't want you to do, like selling your games to someone else), are probably more suited to your kind.
Post edited September 10, 2013 by timppu
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amok: Does not work with DRM free. It is arguably allowed within the new EU ruling (though it is still debatable how much it does actually apply), but it still have the caveat " the previous owner must no longer be able to use the licensed software after the resale". It is impossible to impose this without any form of rights management.
Why do u guys have funky rulings like that?
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zerospace: yea, but like I said, GOG are already relying on me/you... not to pirate game, there is no drm, I can copy it to usb and bring it to anyone I know, and all of them could play it without any issues
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timppu: They (and the game publisher who agreed to release the game on GOG) are also relying on you not to sell it to someone else after you are "done". That's where the ultra low discount prices come from.

So you would be still misusing the honor system where there are no technical barriers. I think the DRM systems like Steam, which don't consider you as a honorable person (hence DRM to prevent you from doing anything they don't want you to do, like selling your games to someone else), are probably more suited to your kind.
no, what I ment is if It is not allowed to sell it /or even lend it ot my friends/ I wont, and I also wont pirate it, it will remain on my hard drive. didnt mean if I cant sell it I will pirate it
:)
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zerospace: or even lend it ot my friends
GOG's unofficial stance on this is to treat your game like a book. If you decide to lend it to your friend, refrain from playing it yourself while he does. Just as you couldn't both be reading the same copy of the book, do the same with your copy of the game.
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amok: Does not work with DRM free. It is arguably allowed within the new EU ruling (though it is still debatable how much it does actually apply), but it still have the caveat " the previous owner must no longer be able to use the licensed software after the resale". It is impossible to impose this without any form of rights management.
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nijuu: Why do u guys have funky rulings like that?
At least we are trying to get some rulings :)

And logically, it is the only thing that works. Anything else is just to open for abuse.