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Posted December 02, 2013
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Elmofongo: He keeps using that example even though who the fuck still plays that game to this day and fuck if a new game releases right now there would be outrage and sales would be low as hell.
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LiquidOxygen80: You wanna know what the real irony of DoA Volleyball was? My sister and her friends, females all of them, fucking LOVED that game. >.>

Minigames, outfits, accessorizing, volleyball. Basically, that game got men to play dolls by distracting them with jiggly parts. :3
Well, every single man who has played with action figures as a child has played with dolls... An action figure is just a doll with guns or swords that sometimes can do something, like punch or kick or talk etc.
Post edited December 02, 2013 by monkeydelarge
Posted December 02, 2013
Just making sure I understand the situation,

The only ones "hurt" by these "sexist" games are those that don't play these games.

Please correct me if you feel the need to
Posted December 02, 2013
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Rusty_Gunn: Just making sure I understand the situation,

The only ones "hurt" by these "sexist" games are those that don't play these games.

Please correct me if you feel the need to
Apparently these poor souls are being traumatized by pictures in gaming magazines. You know, those ancient things that hardly any gamers read anymore which have mostly gone online or right out of business as a result?
Posted December 02, 2013
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Rusty_Gunn: Just making sure I understand the situation,

The only ones "hurt" by these "sexist" games are those that don't play these games.

Please correct me if you feel the need to
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Cormoran: Apparently these poor souls are being traumatized by pictures in gaming magazines. You know, those ancient things that hardly any gamers read anymore which have mostly gone online or right out of business as a result?
Offtopic: Do physical PC mags even exist anymore (I haven't got a PC gamer in quite a while)
Posted December 02, 2013
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Rusty_Gunn: Offtopic: Do physical PC mags even exist anymore (I haven't got a PC gamer in quite a while)
You may stumble across some if you leave your apartament some day ;-)
Posted December 02, 2013
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Rusty_Gunn: Offtopic: Do physical PC mags even exist anymore (I haven't got a PC gamer in quite a while)
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keeveek: You may stumble across some if you leave your apartament some day ;-)
But the sun could be out...there & it's EEvill
Posted December 02, 2013
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Vestin: Are you suggesting that scientific research takes effort?
No, sorry, I guess you're suggesting that it shouldn't...
Well, you dismissed a study that looked at portrayal of video characters, because they only looked at pictures and didn't also look at text. You dismissed a study that showed female characters' bodies are on the average unrealistically out of proportion, because the researchers didn't also play the games. What I'm suggesting is that no amount of effort will ever be good for you, because you don't want to believe there could be things that are wrong with the portrayal of women in video games.

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Vestin: "Asking a question" ? "Asking" a question? Hardly.
We tried to take them seriously, you know. At least some of us have. Decent PC gaming news are hard to come by.
Their necrophiliac, Dead Island thing pissed me off. PAX boycott got me thinking about RPS boycott. Harassing BLIZZARD, my beloved guys, over issues RPS themselves claim DO NOT exist, yet they MAY at some point in the future? Issues that are nonsensical, made up, and pinned blindly on whatever they can find? Screw this. I've had enough.
What else did they do apart from asking questions during an interview and publishing articles? If asking questions during interviews is harassment, then all journalists are guilty of that.

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Vestin: I honestly don't know what to tell you at this point. If you still want to prove things to me, show me a girl gamer who feels depressed by female depictions in video games. I'll give her a hug, take her to dinner, talk things out, and clear her mind... free of charge.
Well, I know several women who find female protagonists and supportive characters often difficult to relate to because of the way they are portrayed, but I don't think it's because they need a hug and someone to "set them straight".
Post edited December 02, 2013 by Mrstarker
Posted December 02, 2013
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Mrstarker: Well, you dismissed a study that looked at portrayal of video characters, because they only looked at pictures and didn't also look at text.
Look at what you wrote here. Look at that. I don't even care about the context - it's not exactly much of a scientific inquiry to ONLY LOOK AT PICTURES in a MAGAZINE that has text DESCRIBING the thing which you are trying to establish the INFLUENCE of. That's like analyzing the societal impact of alcohol by watching a few ads in TV... with the sound off!

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Mrstarker: What I'm suggesting is that no amount of effort will ever be good for you, because you don't want to believe there could be things that are wrong with the portrayal of women in video games.
No amount of effort will be good for me, because what you are pushing is bullshit. You can't convincingly prove something which is not true. You are linking me to people with an attitude along the lines of "gamers, rapists - what's the difference?", and then whine that *I* am the one being biased. Sheesh.

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Mrstarker: What else did they do apart from asking questions during an interview and publishing articles? If asking questions during interviews is harassment, then all journalists are guilty of that.
You know, we had a guy in parliament who once got the floor and repeatedly asked someone "Is it true that you take bribes?". When the press questioned his allegations, he said "What? Can't you even ask a question? I never claimed anything".
If all you see is RPS guys "asking questions"... Too bad. Look closer.

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Mrstarker: Well, I know several women who find female protagonists and supportive characters often difficult to relate to because of the way they are portrayed, but I don't think it's because they need a hug and someone to "set them straight".
I disagree, I'm fairly certain they do need a hug. Who doesn't ;P?
Either way - I hope they get the help they deserve.
Posted December 02, 2013
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Cormoran: Apparently these poor souls are being traumatized by pictures in gaming magazines. You know, those ancient things that hardly any gamers read anymore which have mostly gone online or right out of business as a result?
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Rusty_Gunn: Offtopic: Do physical PC mags even exist anymore (I haven't got a PC gamer in quite a while)
I don't know, I'm too scared to even go to that section of the store for fear of instantly turning into a psychotic poon hungry super rapist at the first picture I see.
Posted December 02, 2013
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Vestin: No amount of effort will be good for me, because what you are pushing is bullshit. You can't convincingly prove something which is not true. You are linking me to people with an attitude along the lines of "gamers, rapists - what's the difference?", and then whine that *I* am the one being biased. Sheesh.
This is purely your exaggerated take on it. They merely mentioned a study when discussing what had been researched before, as studies often do. Also, the study they mentioned wasn't equating gamers with rapists. The study found that people who play violent video games are also more likely to feel that rape victims "deserved it". It doesn't mean that the video games caused these attitudes, just that people who think that way are also more likely to play violent video games. Correlation does not imply causation.
Posted December 02, 2013
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keeveek: You may stumble across some if you leave your apartament some day ;-)
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Rusty_Gunn: But the sun could be out...there & it's EEvill
Evil sun, indeed. It burns us...
Posted December 02, 2013
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Mrstarker: The study found that people who play violent video games are also more likely to feel that rape victims "deserved it". It doesn't mean that the video games caused these attitudes, just that people who think that way are also more likely to play violent video games. Correlation does not imply causation.
I've told you this already - THAT'S MY POINT. They're not lying blatantly, they're merely arranging their statements in a particular fashion to paint the issue in a particular light. You linked a study on how gamers "mirror" sexism. They mention... What was that shit called? "Rape-supportive attitude"? They don't even go "Oh, we're not saying there IS a causal link here, or anything of that sort", they merely toss it in your face as additional info. What does this add when it comes to people actually "mirroring"? NOTHING. Why is it there? Because it makes a good impression and the right crowd will gobble it up.
Besides - how CAN you take seriously people who use such phrases? There's a lot to be said on how much you can tell about a person's paradigm just based on their lexicon...
Posted December 02, 2013
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Rusty_Gunn: Just making sure I understand the situation,

The only ones "hurt" by these "sexist" games are those that don't play these games.

Please correct me if you feel the need to
How about the number of people "hurt" by one person asking another person a question about a video game?

The walls of text written abou how insignificant this issue should be...

The irony is delicious. That the complainers can't see it makes it moreso. :)
Posted December 02, 2013
Ah, RPS, have we ever told You what the definition of insanity was? Eh..
Posted December 02, 2013
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htown1980: How about the number of people "hurt" by one person asking another person a question about a video game?

The walls of text written abou how insignificant this issue should be...

The irony is delicious. That the complainers can't see it makes it moreso. :)
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