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Posted December 01, 2013
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Kennethor: Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
And is it not twisted when a group of women is laughing that a woman chopped of her husband's penis on CBS in primetime?
Posted December 01, 2013
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keeveek: One of the least substantial posts in this thread , divided by 0.
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Kennethor: There is no more to say, I don't understand why this thread has gone on and on and on so far.
Like I've said, who are we to tell if women are complaining to much about their exposure in games as an example?

I can dig up several things that show that women are extremly objectified in just games, but nobody here would change opinion or attitude.

Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
You'd have a stronger point is this discussion of what women feel weren't the result of an op-ed about this topic. Men get bashed enough in western societies by women that ascribe all sorts of bullshit to things like this. The reality is that there's no particular concern made to men's well being, it's always about women's welfare.

As for that Dreamhack example, it's not unreasonable to expect women to leave the room if they're offended by that. I've been REQUIRED to sit through presentations for school that amount to bashing men using out of context quotes and graphic descriptions designed to make men feel horrible about themselves.

It's disturbing the way that people like you can't seem to recognize that there's a double standard and it's not necessarily facing the direction that you think it's facing.
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Kennethor: Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
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keeveek: And is it not twisted when a group of women is laughing that a woman chopped of her husband's penis on CBS in primetime?
I remember an incredibly tense lesson in college about gender free language where I was the only man present and in the US there's a strong taboo against saying anything that might offend women in an academic setting.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 01, 2013
I haven't set eyes on RPS (Rolling Pile of Shit) since they called for a boycott on PAX.

Fuck me do I still miss Big Download.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by Sogi-Ya
Posted December 01, 2013
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Kennethor: Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
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keeveek: And is it not twisted when a group of women is laughing that a woman chopped of her husband's penis on CBS in primetime?
Of course it is, I have'nt said anything else. That was a bunch of lunatics, hardly feminists. It did'nt have anything to do with the discussion though, should I post videos about stupid men who laugh at a raped girl or something? No, because it is not a intelligent or valid point in this discussion.
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hedwards: It's disturbing the way that people like you can't seem to recognize that there's a double standard and it's not necessarily facing the direction that you think it's facing.
Where do you get this from? I say that women are far more opressed and exposed in our society, not that all men are pigs or that all women are angels.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by Kennethor
Posted December 01, 2013
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hedwards: +1 good post.
Yay ^^.
BTW - it's amazing that in that paper they discuss how impressionable kids are between 10-14 (or something along the lines) and then cite studies on M- and T-rated games.

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Vestin: Snip
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Kennethor: One of the most ignorant posts ever, -1.
I admire your courage. Considering how many lives I have taken across all computer games, I've become somewhat of a pro-murder person. Some say that people like me and their murder-supportive attitudes are contributing to murder-culture...
I say: BURN! PURGE! KILL!
Post edited December 01, 2013 by Vestin
Posted December 01, 2013
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Kennethor: There is no more to say, I don't understand why this thread has gone on and on and on so far.
Like I've said, who are we to tell if women are complaining to much about their exposure in games as an example?

I can dig up several things that show that women are extremly objectified in just games, but nobody here would change opinion or attitude.

Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?

Women in game are sexualized, marginalized, objectualized, and abused ... writing attention whore articles and sensationalizing even the most minor issue to farm page hits for profit is not helping.

The issue at hand is that RPS is the -only- video game blog site dedicated to PC gaming, and they are nothing but mouth breathing drama whores hell bent on embodying the stigma that PC gamers are self entitled fuck-tards who insist that every game be released exclusively on Steam.

Every time their page views slip they write up some dick-head article pretending to white knight for equality, then they happily disclaim that they have no freedom of speech policy and will selectively moderate any post on whim.

This is a writing team with zero diversity: no women & no "ethnicity" in the staff; all 5 of the site's writers are straight white men. They are a pack of fucking assholes who, by default, are the pinnacle media representation for all PC gaming whether we like it or not.

... and we don't, so we bitch impotently about them here whenever they do something extreme / noteworthy.

P.S. Every once in a while they do have a female freelance writer show up (she has also written for almost every game site and is an incredibly good writer), but her perspective on feminism and how she writes about sexist content looks misogynistic next to the white knight stance the regular writers have taken up.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by Sogi-Ya
Posted December 01, 2013
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hedwards: It's disturbing the way that people like you can't seem to recognize that there's a double standard and it's not necessarily facing the direction that you think it's facing.
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Kennethor: Where do you get this from? I say that women are far more opressed and exposed in our society, not that all men are pigs or that all women are angels.
You think that in large part because nobody is going to fund a study that finds anything else. People assume that women are disadvantaged because they were told that. And they were told that because studies found that. And in large part the studies found that disproportionately because it's a nightmare to get funding for a study to figure out how many women behave like that.

I've known a lot of women over the years and it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that they aren't every bit as sexist and ill-mannered as men are. The difference is that they tend to do different anti-social things. And those antisocial things tend to be considered less serious as women are the ones being oppressed. Good luck tricking a woman into thinking that she's a mother, but paternity fraud is fairly common.
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Kennethor: There is no more to say, I don't understand why this thread has gone on and on and on so far.
Like I've said, who are we to tell if women are complaining to much about their exposure in games as an example?

I can dig up several things that show that women are extremly objectified in just games, but nobody here would change opinion or attitude.

Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
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Sogi-Ya:
Women in game are sexualized, marginalized, objectualized, and abused ... writing attention whore articles and sensationalizing even the most minor issue to farm page hits for profit is not helping.

The issue at hand is that RPS is the -only- video game blog site dedicated to PC gaming, and they are nothing but mouth breathing drama whores hell bent on embodying the stigma that PC gamers are self entitled fuck-tards who insist that every game be released exclusively on Steam.

Every time their page views slip they write up some dick-head article pretending to white knight for equality, then they happily disclaim that they have no freedom of speech policy and will selectively moderate any post on whim.

This is a writing team with zero diversity: no women & no "ethnicity" in the staff; all 5 of the site's writers are straight white men. They are a pack of fucking assholes who, by default, are the pinnacle media representation for all PC gaming whether we like it or not.

... and we don't, so we bitch impotently about them here whenever they do something extreme / noteworthy.

P.S. Every once in a while they do have a female freelance writer show up (she has also written for almost every game site and is an incredibly good writer), but her perspective on feminism and how she writes about sexist content looks misogynistic next to the white knight stance the regular writers have taken up.
As opposed to men in games that are basically robots and cannon fodder. Because that's what I wanted to be when I grew up, robotic cannon fodder.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 01, 2013
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hedwards: As opposed to men in games that are basically robots and cannon fodder. Because that's what I wanted to be when I grew up, robotic cannon fodder.
WTF are you talking about, I play games specifically because I can be robotic cannon fodder!
Posted December 01, 2013
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hedwards: As opposed to men in games that are basically robots and cannon fodder. Because that's what I wanted to be when I grew up, robotic cannon fodder.
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Sogi-Ya: WTF are you talking about, I play games specifically because I can be robotic cannon fodder!
I guess that's what I get for stereotyping. >,<
Posted December 01, 2013
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Kennethor: There is no more to say, I don't understand why this thread has gone on and on and on so far.
Like I've said, who are we to tell if women are complaining to much about their exposure in games as an example?

I can dig up several things that show that women are extremly objectified in just games, but nobody here would change opinion or attitude.

Take what happened at Dreamhack for example, a woman shoved a banana down her throat and was then covered in milk by a man while the guys in the crowd cheered. How can somebody say that this is not twisted?
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Sogi-Ya:
Women in game are sexualized, marginalized, objectualized, and abused ... writing attention whore articles and sensationalizing even the most minor issue to farm page hits for profit is not helping.

The issue at hand is that RPS is the -only- video game blog site dedicated to PC gaming, and they are nothing but mouth breathing drama whores hell bent on embodying the stigma that PC gamers are self entitled fuck-tards who insist that every game be released exclusively on Steam.

Every time their page views slip they write up some dick-head article pretending to white knight for equality, then they happily disclaim that they have no freedom of speech policy and will selectively moderate any post on whim.

This is a writing team with zero diversity: no women & no "ethnicity" in the staff; all 5 of the site's writers are straight white men. They are a pack of fucking assholes who, by default, are the pinnacle media representation for all PC gaming whether we like it or not.

... and we don't, so we bitch impotently about them here whenever they do something extreme / noteworthy.

P.S. Every once in a while they do have a female freelance writer show up (she has also written for almost every game site and is an incredibly good writer), but her perspective on feminism and how she writes about sexist content looks misogynistic next to the white knight stance the regular writers have taken up.
RPS seems to be a bunch of idiots, I have never said otherwise. I am just tired of all the guys flocking to this thread telling everybody "how it is" because "because".
Posted December 01, 2013
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Sogi-Ya: WTF are you talking about, I play games specifically because I can be robotic cannon fodder!
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hedwards: I guess that's what I get for stereotyping. >,<
I don't think there is a single stereotype that applies to me; I am a straight white male gamer of reasonably good looks and high physical fitness who like playing FPS titles while listening to Japanese hip-hop or random battle / turnbased JRPGs with strong (non sexually explicit) character romances while listening to GWAR.
Post edited December 01, 2013 by Sogi-Ya
Posted December 01, 2013
The white-knighting in this thread is hilarious.
Posted December 01, 2013
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itchy01ca01: The white-knighting in this thread is hilarious.
When White Knight trolls battle, us red mage bridge goblins cook popcorn on the flames.
Posted December 01, 2013
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itchy01ca01: The white-knighting in this thread is hilarious.
Hey, that's racist!
Posted December 01, 2013
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itchy01ca01: The white-knighting in this thread is hilarious.
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wpegg: Hey, that's racist!
I think white knight is a term regarding the colour of the horse and elements on the armour :P
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