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Posted July 04, 2014
The alphabet saved the best for last!

Z, the classic Real Time Strategy Game by the Bitmap Brothers remade for the modern PC and the contemporary gamer, is available 20% off on GOG.com. That's only $5.59 for the first week.

[url=http://www.gog.com/game/z][/url]With Z, fans of this classic strategy title are in for a real treat! Everything is in here from the terrific comedy cut scenes to the frantic game play, making this the definitive version of Z.Under the command of General Zod, it is your job to take control of chain smoking, foul-mouthed, abusive, alcoholic robot-grunts, whose main purpose is to battle it out on different planets of the universe. That is, if they're not currently crashing the ship they're on! Advance through the landscape and take over abandoned factories and radar sites which will help you produce more vehicles and weapons to aid your army to victory. This is not a drill, soldier! Every decision counts, and if you screw up, you will be punished for it. General Zod is ready to rumble and makes no bones about it! Z is simply the fastest, funniest, most frantic, feature-packed action-strategy game you'll play this century!

If you're looking to get back to the roots of Real Time Strategy gaming, and you're not afraid of fast-paced and challenging gameplay, you simply need to get Z, for only $5.59 on GOG.com. The 20% off release discount lasts until Friday, July 11, at 9:59AM GMT.
Posted July 05, 2014
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igrok: I can't believe there is so much ranting after the much awaited release. It seems that some people will always find a reason to complain rather than enjoying the game and the fact that a good old game got a modern day reincarnation.
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darthspudius: It's a shoddy port of a mobile game. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people won't be happy about it.
I agree. Some people complain because they don't enjoy the game. Not all modern day reincarnations are good things. I can't see spending the money on a weak port of a mobile game.
Post edited July 05, 2014 by Tooms
Posted July 05, 2014
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darthspudius: It's a shoddy port of a mobile game. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people won't be happy about it.
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Tooms: I agree. Some people complain because they don't enjoy the game. Not all modern day reincarnations are good things. I can't see spending the money on a weak port of a mobile game.
It's a bloody shame too. I was looking forward to it.
Posted July 05, 2014
OMFG YES!!!

...was my initial reaction, until I realised it's a remake. Please GOG, release the original as well! It's one of my favourite games ever, and I do NOT want to play a laggy port :(
Posted July 05, 2014
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darthspudius: It's a shoddy port of a mobile game. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people won't be happy about it.
Just because the game is not 100% identical to an old version is not an adequate reason to give it very low ratings and denounce entirely.
Posted July 05, 2014
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darthspudius: It's a shoddy port of a mobile game. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people won't be happy about it.
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igrok: Just because the game is not 100% identical to an old version is not an adequate reason to give it very low ratings and denounce entirely.
how about the lack of decent performance? Poor resolutions?
Posted July 05, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Once an operating system stops getting updated, new vulnerabilities within the old system can be found and they will never be patched out.
Of course. Knew and realized that already xD
(let's be honest, if I need to change my SO, I do it without any kind of problems. On the other hand, unless it is necessary and/or obligatory to do, I'll keep what I have. And I hope is that ok with everyone)

(let me add something else: 2 months later of the end of support and I'm still with XP. 0 issues yet)

But the thing is: Is that bad the game has support for XP? For the sake of people who still have that SO or because they plain demand it? Aren't we free enough to ask something gently and peacefully? An then, hopefully enough, get what we asked back.

Because you see... people goes here and there saying we should'a change, problems here and there, excuses or simply ego. Take a look how a launch started in grettings and ended in a debate of how 'the rest of the world' should behave with their SOs.

Such WOW. xD

Anyway, Iscariot, can I ask you a golden question?

Why GOG devs prefered the remake, wich is obviously a port to PC of a tablet/mobile market game before the real PC classic game? Wich is, in my opinion (and I guess a lot more people) even more complete and faithful.

Don't get me wrong here, I appreciate you guys launched this. But even saying that, I have that question rounding my head unreplied.
Posted July 05, 2014
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darthspudius: It's a shoddy port of a mobile game. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people won't be happy about it.
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igrok: Just because the game is not 100% identical to an old version is not an adequate reason to give it very low ratings and denounce entirely.
I agree with your assesment. People are heavily overreacting only because the gui is different then it was in the first version of this game and also way selecting units is a bit different. Resolution is a lot better then in original and people are still not satisfied and I frankly don't believe that anybody has performance issues with it.
Posted July 05, 2014
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igrok: Just because the game is not 100% identical to an old version is not an adequate reason to give it very low ratings and denounce entirely.
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Matruchus: I agree with your assesment. People are heavily overreacting only because the gui is different then it was in the first version of this game and also way selecting units is a bit different. Resolution is a lot better then in original and people are still not satisfied and I frankly don't believe that anybody has performance issues with it.
You live under your rock then. The world is perfect. :P
Posted July 05, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Once an operating system stops getting updated, new vulnerabilities within the old system can be found and they will never be patched out.
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Maverick1988: Of course. Knew and realized that already xD
(let's be honest, if I need to change my SO, I do it without any kind of problems. On the other hand, unless it is necessary and/or obligatory to do, I'll keep what I have. And I hope is that ok with everyone)

(let me add something else: 2 months later of the end of support and I'm still with XP. 0 issues yet)

But the thing is: Is that bad the game has support for XP? For the sake of people who still have that SO or because they plain demand it? Aren't we free enough to ask something gently and peacefully? An then, hopefully enough, get what we asked back.

Because you see... people goes here and there saying we should'a change, problems here and there, excuses or simply ego. Take a look how a launch started in grettings and ended in a debate of how 'the rest of the world' should behave with their SOs.

Such WOW. xD

Anyway, Iscariot, can I ask you a golden question?

Why GOG devs prefered the remake, wich is obviously a port to PC of a tablet/mobile market game before the real PC classic game? Wich is, in my opinion (and I guess a lot more people) even more complete and faithful.

Don't get me wrong here, I appreciate you guys launched this. But even saying that, I have that question rounding my head unreplied.
We can only distribute what we are allowed to distribute. We realize that whenever a remake of a classic game is launched that its most ardent fans will want the original as well but it depends on whether we get permission to do so and, in Z's case, we don't have the legal permission to do so. Sorry :(
Posted July 05, 2014
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Muttala: is the sequel, steel soldiers better?
I liked it. It still has the "flag-based" territory capture idea, and it's true 3D.
Posted July 05, 2014
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JudasIscariot: *snip*
But did you guys at least tried? Like, ask or anything? D:

Can't believe a powerhouse like GOG.com can't get that rights/permissions (or be denied) but instead, someone else unknown (because IDK you, but I've never heard about Kavcom or even TickTock Games :\ ) get those rights and do whatever they want just before you guys finally come and get only a part of that cake. (aka simple deal of distribution) ????? How crazy is this world were we live in?

You, who have YEARS of experience, amazing teams, pretty good contacts, epic community, an enjoyable catalog and plenty of deals everywhere.

Well, pardon me and my crazyness. I don't want to bother you anymore. Have a good night xD
Posted July 05, 2014
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JudasIscariot: *snip*
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Maverick1988: But did you guys at least tried? Like, ask or anything? D:

Can't believe a powerhouse like GOG.com can't get that rights/permissions (or be denied) but instead, someone else unknown (because IDK you, but I've never heard about Kavcom or even TickTock Games :\ ) get those rights and do whatever they want just before you guys finally come and get only a part of that cake. (aka simple deal of distribution) ????? How crazy is this world were we live in?

You, who have YEARS of experience, amazing teams, pretty good contacts, epic community, an enjoyable catalog and plenty of deals everywhere.

Well, pardon me and my crazyness. I don't want to bother you anymore. Have a good night xD
Yes, we did ask otherwise how else would I be able to tell you that we don't have the legal permission? :)

Also, see tfishell's post about this very issue:

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_z/post134
Post edited July 05, 2014 by JudasIscariot
Posted July 05, 2014
I think the best solution as of now is to get the open-source recreation....
Posted July 05, 2014
one of my favorite RTSs from the past, thanks GOG!
Posted July 05, 2014
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JudasIscariot: *sniiip*
That was useful info. xD So neither them or GOG could pick up that 'source-code'. Talking about source-codes, I know I'm gonna ask the most stupid thing, but... why on earth you (meaning GOG devs) want the source-code in the first part? Isn't simply as getting an original copy (ceased by the original devs aka Bitmap Brothers obviously, after the deals) and do your magic on the .exes (like getting rid of any DRM, adapting to new SO, patching and those cool testing things), then repackaging and last distributing?

On his side (TickTock Games & Kavcom) I understand why they wanted it, because without a source-code is pretty impossible adapt/remake a game on a new platform. But you guys have it more easy, just guessing. :P
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