What's to get? That some people don't use that system. Some people use percentages. Some people use stars. And event when it comes to 1-10 scale, not every outlet is using precisely the rankings you have outlined - it should be as you say, but as it stands, 7 is the new 5! It's a terrible, terrible mess right now with absolutely no unification whatsoever. If everybody used the word 'geezer' differently, word geezer would die pretty damn fast.

Yes, please. Words 'good' and 'bad' in a review are just as unhelpful as numbers are. When a reviewer uses one of them, he damn well needs to explain why he said that in detail so I can decide whether or not do I consider the same thing good or bad. Or he/she just needs to not use them at all and get on with the useful bits.

No. No you can't. That people think they can do that is why we're in this mess in the first place. Using numbers to describe subjectivity is just making numeric represenataion meaningless.

No, numbers are not relative to space. That's the whole point of numbers! Go and tell what you just told me to a matematician, he'll shoot you on sight...

Shortcuts created due to a lack of competence are not a good reason. On the contrary, it makes the situation even worse.

Hey, only Windows Vista,7,8?! I used to play it on Windows 2000 when it came out! How can you actually reduce compatibility?

This is a great game. It's not a conventional RPG/Adventure but it has its own mood and its own set of rules. I don't remember too much of it now but I remember I had a great time and it was a good experience. What's more to ask? Thanks, GOG, finally you've released a game I know. :-)

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_sudeki/post34

The developers changed a lot of the input code and what not when they released it to Steam a month ago. I'm sure their priority was only to get it working on 7/8 without the use of compatibility modes since XP had less than a month of support at that point.

Thanks. So I can and I will run it on my XP. That's what matters to me.

Oh man I remember this game! For me, it was pretty...terrible, haha. The problem was that it was quite hollow and repetitive, apart from the story being utterly forgettable. The combat was fun, though, and it did have some good moments.

I will still use it. Anyway, according to Judas it's playable on most XP systems so I'm willing to risk it a bit.

Ooh, cool to see Sudeki here. Now with a low, low price, and more importantly released without a copy protection system that destroys DVD drives!

What can I say, it does bother me.

First of all: No, but I would like a word where subjective descriptions of feeling are used for subjective terminology, such as good, bad, or indeed, awesome - as opposed to mutating the most objective terminology which exists into something subjective.

Second: It's reviews we're talking about here, those are where this is an issue. If you want to hear whether or not somebody thinks a game's good or bad, you don't read a review, you ask them. Review, on the other hand, should absolutely go into analysis as to why reviewer felt that way, otherwise it ceases being a review and becomes an opinion. Every reviewer should do all he can to fight subjectivity, and numeric ratings are nothing but subjective.

Worse than that: Numeric ratings are subjective in a guise of extremely objective representation. It's this completely meaningless feeling of objectivity which gets associated with these numbers which is probably the worst thing about the entire thing, as those are now used as far as to calculate bonuses to developers.

That's the problem, it's not about what you think. That's the absolute opposite of how numbers are supposed to work. What you're talking about here is what terms such as 'bad', 'decent', 'average' etc. were introduced into language for.

To elaborate: I'm not saying that just to be a dick, I'm saying that because to make the numbers meaningful, you need to associate meaning to them. Otherwise, every person reading your review will derive different piece of information from the number you gave to it. Seriously, when you say: "Average", everybody has a fairly clear idea of your meaning. When you write '5/10', people will come to a range of conclusions, going from 'terrible' to 'decent'. That's not to promote just saying 'average', as I said earlier, a good review needs to elaborate. Nonetheless, the word conveys that meaning far better than a number.

Of course, if numeric representations had a precise, generally agreed upon meaning, easily translatable to language, they would be understandeable, albeit useless as you could just use language to describe the same thing. As it stands tho, 'Average', 'Good' and 'Great' have a far more cut out and more widely agreed upon meanings than 5/10, 7/10 or 8/10

Yup, let's compare a safety precausion and bloody numeric representation of an opinion :-P Let's just say: In my company, we use tools which actively make our work harder to increase its quality. When it's not about health and safety, cutting on corners is a terrible idea.

edit: Watch out. Made a couple of edits ;-)

The only thing I remember from this game is the endless fetch quests. "I cannot find my trouser suspenders, I think I left it on the beach". I stopped playing not long after.

Mind you, I may give it another go now that is on gog. I liked the idea of the the game, but was initally put off by the fetch quests.

Hmm did I say PS2? Hmm it seems I did. PS2 although no longer covered, those games seem unlikely since there's the PSP which is basically a handheld PS2. Then there's the ps3 and ps4 which from what I can tell Sony filed a patent that they intended to use the Cell processor to emulate the PS2 architecture and play the older games. the PS4 is powerful enough that it could do it all in software since it has less hardware that's actually similar/compatible with the EmotionEngine chip.

Sorry I said PS2, that seems unlikely, but XBox titles were effectively just dropped for support except for a select few which got recompiled binaries to run on the 360. Better off running the PCSX2 emulator which locally re-compiles to native code, but still needs at least one powerful core to run it. As for the Xbone, I wouldn't be surprised they won't do the same thing with their 'emulation' they mentioned and just recompile to the x86 for select games.

Actually I'm wondering if a company fairly soon will include the common CPU chips and put them on a PCI board which then an emulator can take advantage of by using actual hardware for the hardest part of the emulation thereby speeding it up. It's not like those chips are all that expensive by themselves. Wouldn't be the first time hardware acceleration via hardware chips were used on different architectures.

Cool cool, we need more Xbox era titles here.

Great Release, thank you! More Games from this period please (and the 90s).

Forgive the post-modernist philosophy here but there is a good case for saying everything is subjective, even numbers. Some otherwise fine people don't have the mental tools to think of numbers in an abstract way. To them Numbers are no more objective than anything else. We agree that 2 + 2 = 4. but if we were wrong our agreement wouldn't make right. Numbers are seen as objective because we agree on them. Not due to any magical properties.


But I'm being pedantic here. I don't know how you feel about me but I like you so I'm going to tell you why I'm so fond of scores. When I first started watching films in earnest the first film guide I had was a Variety one (this was before places like I MDB were around). Films were unclassified and unscored. Any critic who sees a world without scores as a utopia where everyone reads everything they say is dreaming. The only thing I had when flipping through the book to catch my interest were the titles.
Later I found the Radio Times. A guide that categorised films by genre and gave them star ratings. I bought it the same day and never looked back. Thanks to these two systems I tried out a lot of films I would have never even thought of reading about. Many of them are now among my favourite films ever. It also got me to try out some films way outside of my normal tastes on the claim that these were the best of their kind. And my life was richer for it.

I find without fail I pay more attention to rated reviews. I spend more effort reading reviews here on GOG than the thumbs up/thumbs down ones of Steam. It might not be an exact science but neither is reviewing.

So that why I love scores. They give me a reason to want to read about new stuff in the first place.

Also "If you want to hear whether or not somebody thinks a game's good or bad, you don't read a review, you ask them" when it comes to games I don't have people to ask if they're good or not. Just reviews.


Also just as you can say Reviewers should be eloquent enough not need scores you can say humans should be smart enough not to fall from high places but sadly that's not always the case.