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General discussion (archive)Release: <b>Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 Platinum!</b>(285 posts)(285 posts)
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Posted April 26, 2012
Grab a front seat--this is one wild ride you will never forget

Finally, the trilogy is complete: GOG.com brings Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 back to your PCs in a definitive digital bundled-with-extras DRM-free package with the Soaked! and Wild! add-ons, all for just $19.99.

Rollercoaster Tycoon 3: Platinum! is a construction and management simulator, in which the player runs an amusement park by building rides, managing finances, hiring staff, and keeping the “peeps” happy. The game features career mode, in which players complete predesigned scenarios, and new sandbox mode where you can literally spend days and weeks designing the greatest roller coaster PC monitors have ever witnessed. The game utilizes full 3D graphics; that not only means you can rotate the camera and zoom in/out on your guests and amusement rides, but also allows you to use the CoasterCam and cruise along with your thrill-ride visitors.

Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 is all the best from its genre--it’s beautiful to watch, accessible but challenging, enormously entertaining, and incredibly detailed when it comes to managing rides, buildings, salaries, prices, and fees. In addition to that, RCT3 packs a few new elements, like a day/night cycle, creating your own fireworks, adding your own mp3 music to the background, and creating your own groups of visitors. This is a tremendous addition to the series, especially since the Wild! and Soaked! add-ons are included.

Run the greatest amusement park in gaming history, available now on GOG.com for $19.99.
Posted May 02, 2012
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Darling_Jimmy: My hypothesis is they were unprepared for the sharks they now find themselves swimming with. I wouldn't be surprised if Gog honestly intended the new price points to apply only to new games while the publishers had different ideas.
The sharks bit I'm pretty sure about, but I actually interpreted this release as "we could have had this ages ago, but the publisher just would not agree with $9.99 no matter what we did".

If there's a lesson in this, I think it's that GOG should really start dumping some games into the catalogue without any fanfare, because they're not worth any. And I think they know that, hence the double release day. It dilutes the excitement of genuinely great releases.
Posted May 02, 2012
You know folks, I don't get what is your point.

GOG price of this game is one of the best in DD (not counting retail, as retail prices, after some time, just go down because there's a need to make more room on the shop shelves).

GOG will never be able to force publishers to release their games twice cheaper than elsewhere. Be it RT3 or AC1.

The only thing GOG could do about this game - is not to release it. And if you tell me that GOG should not release some games, that's something I can't understand.

Now, you can expect Vampire Bloodlines priced 14.99$ or even 19.99$ too.
Posted May 02, 2012
RTC 3 Platinum in Steam would cost me 30€.
On gog: 20$ without Steam-copy-protection.

Seems like a good deal to me, though I already own the game on DVD (10€ in 2008 with Add Ons).
Besides: I think that UbiSoft is responsible for the pricing, not gog.
Posted May 02, 2012
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Racer_X: Besides: I think that UbiSoft is responsible for the pricing, not gog.
I know Ubisoft is pure evil ;) but this one is from Atari.
Posted May 02, 2012
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Racer_X: Besides: I think that UbiSoft is responsible for the pricing, not gog.
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SLP2000: I know Ubisoft is pure evil ;) but this one is from Atari.
My bad, I'm sorry. Yet you get my point. It's not gog's fault. :)
Posted May 02, 2012
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SLP2000: You know folks, I don't get what is your point.

GOG price of this game is one of the best in DD (not counting retail, as retail prices, after some time, just go down because there's a need to make more room on the shop shelves).

GOG will never be able to force publishers to release their games twice cheaper than elsewhere. Be it RT3 or AC1.

The only thing GOG could do about this game - is not to release it. And if you tell me that GOG should not release some games, that's something I can't understand.

Now, you can expect Vampire Bloodlines priced 14.99$ or even 19.99$ too.
The point is that it's silly to say things like "You can't compare Digital to Retail" because of course you can.... if I can get the game in the post in 2 days and no cd patch it then back it up for £5+ less then I will. It's not like I have nothing to do for the 2 days wait.

This whole stigma that digital and retail are incomparable is exactly what greedy publishers are relying on and why I still buy hard copies of all new game releases even if they're steamworks. There's no reason why digital games shouldn't depreciate with time, I mean if GoG sold all it's old titles for $29.99 I'd be pissed.

Also I don't think GoG should release some games if they have to go against their principles to do it. I doubt they'll make much money off of this and the annoyed customers / damage to their reputation is likely to outweigh it.
Posted May 02, 2012
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SLP2000: You know folks, I don't get what is your point.

GOG price of this game is one of the best in DD (not counting retail, as retail prices, after some time, just go down because there's a need to make more room on the shop shelves).

GOG will never be able to force publishers to release their games twice cheaper than elsewhere. Be it RT3 or AC1.

The only thing GOG could do about this game - is not to release it. And if you tell me that GOG should not release some games, that's something I can't understand.

Now, you can expect Vampire Bloodlines priced 14.99$ or even 19.99$ too.
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serpantino: The point is that it's silly to say things like "You can't compare Digital to Retail" because of course you can.... if I can get the game in the post in 2 days and no cd patch it then back it up for £5+ less then I will. It's not like I have nothing to do for the 2 days wait.

This whole stigma that digital and retail are incomparable is exactly what greedy publishers are relying on and why I still buy hard copies of all new game releases even if they're steamworks. There's no reason why digital games shouldn't depreciate with time, I mean if GoG sold all it's old titles for $29.99 I'd be pissed.

Also I don't think GoG should release some games if they have to go against their principles to do it. I doubt they'll make much money off of this and the annoyed customers / damage to their reputation is likely to outweigh it.
Is there a legal No-CD patch from Atari for the game? If it is your point is good... If there is no legal patch... you kinda suicide yourself :)
Posted May 02, 2012
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Racer_X: My bad, I'm sorry. Yet you get my point. It's not gog's fault. :)
I don't think anyone actually blame's GOG for the high price of the game. Rather they are worried that GOG actually allowed a publisher to put up a 6 year old game for a $19.99 price tag.

It's a bad precedent, and future negotations with publishers could be negatively affected, possibly leading to other older games being put up for higher prices. (whereas if they had stuck to 5.99/9.99 they might have agreed to that pricepoint)

Obviously that was always going to exclude certain titles from being put up because some publishers just wouldn''t agree to that low a pricepoint either way. It's a tough call, and in the end, for GOG it's better that they simply open up the pricepoints. There's just the very real possibility that in the long term it'll negatively affect us pricewise with future game introductions. (a little)

There's also the worry that GOG is changing more and more. First it was just Good Old Games. Now that name has been taken off, replaced with GOG.com, newer games are being introduced, higher price points, Indie games. And the more it expands, the higher the likelyhood that they'll have to conform to 'normal' publisher agreements like the other retailers have to actually acquire more games.

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spinefarm: Is there a legal No-CD patch from Atari for the game? If it is your point is good... If there is no legal patch... you kinda suicide yourself :)
I think a post earlier in the thread said the CD version was pretty much No-DRM, and that you didn't even need the CD after install.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by Pheace
Posted May 02, 2012
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spinefarm: Is there a legal No-CD patch from Atari for the game? If it is your point is good... If there is no legal patch... you kinda suicide yourself :)
Why do I? I've already bought the game and supported the developer/publisher, I don't give a damn if they don't want me applying a no cd patch and backing it up, that's my prerogative and, as long as I don't share it, it doesn't do them any harm. It doesn't lend my point any less weight as most people here object to illegality as it doesn't support businesses.
Posted May 02, 2012
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serpantino: snip
IMO you can't compare digital to retail, because they work in a different way.

Retail copies at the beginning are full price, but after some time (3 months, 6 months or 1 year) their price is much lower, and after longer time it's sometimes ridiculously cheap. It's because there's limited storage place on shop shelves or in warehouses.

Digital copies, on the other hand, don't need a room on shop shelves, and so their prices stays at the same level for much longer time. But we got weekly sales (or even daily sales), and sometimes deals are better than retail. If you can get a game 75% off on Steam during sale, and the game was released 1 year ago, then it's usually cheaper than retail.

Games distibution is changin, and in 5-10 years there will be no retail. I'm not saying youo can't compare to justify GOG or publishers. I'm saying that you can't compare digital to reatil, because those are two different things, and they work in a different way.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by SLP2000
Posted May 02, 2012
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Pheace: snip
RTC3 originaly have Securom on Retail version...

This is from a gaming forum:
"Many people have had troubles with RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 on dual-core CPUs because the DRM (Securom) thought the computer was emulation software or something."
Posted May 02, 2012
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SLP2000: Games distibution is changin, and in 5-10 years there will be no retail. I'm not saying youo can't compare to justify GOG or publishers. I'm saying that you can't compare digital to reatil, because those are two different things, and they work in a different way.
I agree in some ways but retail works on supply and demand too and some games enjoy a long period with a high retail price (look at the Call of Duty series & Starcraft 2) They are 2 different things in the way they function but the 2 are still looking to the same goal 'To sell games' and digital games distribution needs to change and become more competitive, much like the music industry had to. If the future is digital only then, unless things change, game sales will drop dramatically and piracy will go up even higher.
Posted May 02, 2012
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Pheace: snip
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spinefarm: RTC3 originaly have Securom on Retail version...

This is from a gaming forum:
"Many people have had troubles with RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 on dual-core CPUs because the DRM (Securom) thought the computer was emulation software or something."
I can't speak for the Original version or from personal experience but this is the post I was talking about:

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jamyskis: To add insult to injury, the Deluxe version of RT3 on CD is completely copy-protection free, so you don't even need the disc in the drive once installed.
Post edited May 02, 2012 by Pheace
Posted May 02, 2012
What happened to the $5.99 and $9.99 price points? The main thing I enjoyed about GOG was buying a classic game for the cost of a cheap lunch. Personally I think that if they couldn't keep to their original principals they shouldn't have released this game. I know I have a choice, so I won't be buying this game even though I love the series and have the first two. Shame on you GOG, or even Atari.
Posted May 02, 2012
I thought the point of the higher price points above $9.99 was to offer more recent (or new indie games) games ( as in last few years) at a good price?. This game was made in 2006..:/.
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