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No one wants to be a bad person.

Always Sometimes Monsters, a unique modern adventure title focusing on real world problems and traps of social life rather than fantasy and lighthearted escapism, is available 10% off on GOG.com. That's only $8.99 for the first week.

Most games aim to take us as far from everyday problems as possible and set us on fantastic quests to perform in the realm of imagination. Yet the real life and interaction with other people tends to be much more challenging, and the obstacles we find on our way every day are much more difficult. In most games, there's always a good way out of most situations. It's the reality that often drops impossible choices on us. This is a game about such choices. Here, out of money and out of luck, you find yourself heart broken and on the verge of collapse. You set out on the open road on a mission to win back the love of your life. The story from there is up to you. Can your life be salvaged, or are we always sometimes monsters?

Always Sometimes Monsters is a title designed for a mature gamer who isn't afraid to face his fears and problems that reflect what we're dealing with each day in the real world. You'll be faced with racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, mental health, sexual assault, child abuse, animal abuse, drug abuse, and suicide. Every choice you make affects the virtual (yet lifelike) world and affects the protagonist and the people you'll meet on your path. You may find yourself struggling with every decision, but the outcome--whatever it might turn out to be--has the potential to feel like katharsis.

If you think you're up for the challenge that seems far from everything you've faced so far in the gaming realm, make sure to sign up for the original experience that is Always Sometimes Monsters, a Devolver Digital release, for only $8.99 on GOG.com. The 10% off release discount offer lasts until Wednesday, May 28, at 4:00PM GMT.
Well I wasn't tempting you with the number of strategy games on Steam its the truth :) You can check that here: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?genre=Strategy&category1=998

Ok found official data there are 3090 games on Steam at the moment and 2801 dlc.

Link to check the number of games there: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=#category1=998&sort_order=ASC&page=1)

Well Steam has a lot of drm-free games but the catch is that you need to download it with the steam client and then copy the folders out of the Steam folder. And the games are not marked as drm-free since steam thinks that steamworks is not a drm measure which is funny. And the above is not pirating since several developers have recomended to do that on Steam since the games are drm-free and thus not bound to a client.

The problem is that drm-free in the long term won't have a very bright future since steam gamers (they probably represent over 90% of pc gamers now) mostly don't care about that and see gog users as fanatics. And if gog does not get more games on board its not going to stay competitive for long. Especially classics where gog is for the moment still strong and mostly known for but Steam is gaining fast in classics field now. And their quality checks have become very wanting.

I think the problem with lesser releases is mostly in our dismissal of regional pricing on gog and the effects are being seen already.
Post edited May 21, 2014 by Matruchus
Insta-wishlisted!
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Matruchus: Well I wasn't tempting you with the number of strategy games its the truth : )
You say that as if the truth can't be tempting.

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Matruchus: Well Steam has a lot of drm-free games but the catch is that you need to download it with the steam client and then copy the folders out of the Steam folder.
That's not really the catch. The catch is that first you have to find the DRM free games (and I don't really have the time to waste to investigate all of their games to figure out which ones might be DRM free), and you have to know that Steam's version is really DRM free, and if it turns out to not actually be DRM free you can't get a refund because Steam never promised it was DRM free.

It occurred to me that someone might have already compiled such a list, and I found this, but per their own "triva" section, their list is bogus because they don't count DRM enforcement during game installation as DRM. (Plus their procedure is broken -- it could potentially fail for a game that was actually DRM free but dependent on its install directory.)

This list here on gog is also broken for the same reason (doesn't count install DRM as DRM). Those were just the first two hits in google, the third hit is another likewise-broken list, and I can't be bothered to continue to check that all such lists are similarly broken.

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Matruchus: The problem is that drm-free in the long term won't have a very bright future since steam gamers (they probably represent over 90% of pc gamers now) mostly don't care about that and people who buy on gamersgate don't care about drm-free.
Doesn't matter. If DRM takes over gaming, I quit buying games. Simple as that. The same argument you make here can be made for dumbed down games -- most gamers have short attention spans, dislike reading, want to be "bad-ass" without doing anything actually challenging, and really don't like to use their brain, but that doesn't mean I'm ever going to want to buy dumbed down games. (Case in point, I loved Daggerfall {though I considered it just the start towards a truly great game}, but I have not bought a single TES game since Morrowind. Why? It's explained fairly thoroughly by The Elder Scrolls: The Dumbing Down.)

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Matruchus: I think the problem with lesser releases is mostly in our dismissal of regional pricing on gog and the effects are being seen already.
That is an unfortunate issue -- regional pricing is a complete non-issue for me, but a lack of interesting games certainly is.
Looks interesting :)

I have absolutely NO problem with more of these types of games on GOG. More the better!

Furthermore, the publisher, Devolver Digital, seems to be publishing more than a few notable titles, including the Hotline Miami's (second one's coming), the Shadow Warrior's, Luftrausers, and even Serious Sam First and Second encounter. Browsing their website there are others I hope GOG scores sometime, like Serious Sam 3, Dungeon Hearts (just saw it for the first time but looks cool!), and some others that probably aren't half bad.


Thanks for the Wednesday release! Can't wait to see what tomorrow brings!
Post edited May 21, 2014 by JinseiNGC224
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Matruchus: Well I wasn't tempting you with the number of strategy games on Steam its the truth :) You can check that here: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?genre=Strategy&category1=998

Ok found official data there are 3090 games on Steam at the moment and 2801 dlc.

Link to check the number of games there: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=#category1=998&sort_order=ASC&page=1)

Well Steam has a lot of drm-free games but the catch is that you need to download it with the steam client and then copy the folders out of the Steam folder. And the games are not marked as drm-free since steam thinks that steamworks is not a drm measure which is funny. And the above is not pirating since several developers have recomended to do that on Steam since the games are drm-free and thus not bound to a client.

The problem is that drm-free in the long term won't have a very bright future since steam gamers (they probably represent over 90% of pc gamers now) mostly don't care about that and see gog users as fanatics. And if gog does not get more games on board its not going to stay competitive for long. Especially classics where gog is for the moment still strong and mostly known for but Steam is gaining fast in classics field now. And their quality checks have become very wanting.

I think the problem with lesser releases is mostly in our dismissal of regional pricing on gog and the effects are being seen already.
Uhm, not really fair comparing Steam to GOG.
Steam practically invented Digital sale of games because almost no others belived in it, so of course they will have a bigger catalog.

Also i dont think your notion is totally true, at least not for me and i feel many others feel the same.
Im a steam gamer (103 Games) but i came here from steam
i prefer buying games here because of the no DRM and fair prices.

If all just follow what evryone else do, then you can be certian there will be no change on how the markets works.
Steam isnt withouth faults and its generally a wery bad idea making a single company a monopoly.
Though i dont hate Steam and im no fanatic, but im not so stupid as to follow one company araound no matter what.
Il go where the best offers or the best experience are or to whom can provide me what i want.
Pretty often its here, sometimes its on steam, other times its on humble bundle or other places.

The picture woud have looked totally difrent if it had been GOG that had started with digital sales but they did not.
Steam changed the market, almost all told valve it was immpossible, that they woud fail, the history showed something diffrent that even though somone says it wont work it doesnt mean that has to be the truth.
Post edited May 21, 2014 by Lodium
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SSolomon: The trailer didn't really show what the game is at all, just lots of catch phrases mixed with quick cuts of what I assume is game play. Will pass until some youtube personalities give it a first impression I can watch.
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JudasIscariot: Here you go :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD47IaxAnOs
Thanks for that. Even though Northern Lion makes my ears bleed the way he yells at the end of random words, he did make the game look interesting. May buy it if nothing else pops in the next couple days to draw my attention away.
I seriously need to stop reading these damn threads. About as useful as an asshole on the elbow. Guess I'll wishlist this until I get some more helpful info.

Edit: I couldn't sit through that Northernlion video...his voice hurts my head.
Post edited May 21, 2014 by Ophelium
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The sense of entitlement is strong in this thread...
Wwwwwiiisshhhllliiiisssstttttttt!!!!!

You are going the wrong way!

:-)
Thought it looked interesting until I read enough to realize that it sounds like another one of those indy games where the developers try to shove their political views down the player's throat. While I agree that some of those issues are problems, I don't want buy a game to be preached to, so I think I'll give it a pass. I'll be looking for games that are real entertainment and not political playgrounds for the developers.
Here is a helpful review. I'll definitely pick this one up soon.
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I remember there being a thread about this game on these forums, and it's a pleasant surprise to see the game show up on GOG! :-D

Obviously, that thread was full of the same people labeling all of us who like the game as "intellectual hipsters", and the like, and the stubborn dinosaurs who want GOG to be plain exclusive Good Old Games and go apeshit over every single indie game.

Well, my opinion isn't worth much, since I don't have much buying power, and I'm limited to my "votes with my wallet", but as someone who has been playing video games for over 25 years (not much, compared to some people in here, I'm well aware of that), let me just say that I came for the oldies but ended up staying for the indies. Honestly, most old games are so hyped by nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses, that we create way too high expectations for what they actually end up being and providing. They are awesome games, don't get me wrong, but sometimes I get the feeling that (unless they're truly exceptional, which is rare) the vast majority of people who will fully enjoy them are the ones who love them already. I was hugely disappointed by some of the classics I tried from GOG (namely Outcast, Divine Divinity, Shadow Man and, to an extent, both Baldur's Gate titles), because all people do is praise them. But when I got to finally experience and play them, my expectations were definitely not met. Not by a long shot.

In my opinion, GOG shouldn't be a repository and a museum. I never complain when GOG releases a game I don't like, I prefer to congratulate them whenever they release one I do like, or one I'm interested in. I don't get why so many people come into these threads just to bitch about a game, as if they have the right to be mad at GOG or the developers for not selling or making the games they like. Well, the games you like are still being released and made, don't fret. Game releases on GOG are cyclic, and that's not on their hands to control, I'm really sorry if indie games annoy you, if you somehow think they're some sort of gaming industry cancer, or whatever. I'm really, really sorry if GOG has been releasing so many adventure games and you absolutely CRAVE the next über boring 4X turn-based-strategy-whatever-simulator-godlike-thingamabob (note: this is just my opinion, I abhor these games, so I abstain from commenting on their GOG release threads, as I have nothing remotely positive or knowledgeable to say). Why the hell do you have to come in every single indie or adventure game release just to complain?! GOG asked the community whether we wanted indies or not. The community said yes. I'm sorry if you don't like it, some (most) of us do, you just happen to be that obnoxious very vocal minority (at least it's always the same two or three guys).

We may be "intellectual hipsters" and "not true gamers", but our money is worth the same as yours, so let us enjoy our games in peace. I promise you that whenever GOG goes through a strategy phase I won't go complaining "hey, GOG, where the hell are my adventure games? Enough with the strategy, already!" OK? Do we have a deal?! Seriously, just let it go...

Enjoy your oldies. GOG keeps releasing them every single week. Yeah, sure, they might not be the ones you *truly* wanted, but they're oldies. The big names are hard to secure, the folks at GOG have told us so time and time again. They're trying. Give them space to breathe and maneuver, I'm pretty sure it's in GOG's best interest to have those games in their catalog, too, don't worry. In the meanwhile, enjoy the indie efforts. You'd be surprised at how fresh and innovative some of these titles are, how creative some of these developers can be, with the means they have. If only you'd be able to look past the "good OLD games is where it's at, indies suck" stigma.

[EDIT] As for Always Sometimes Monsters: insta-wishlisted. And would've been an insta-buy, had I the money.
Post edited May 21, 2014 by groze
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groze: *nice stuff*
+1 for not using bad 4-letter words and check your PMs.

Edit: You used plenty of four-letter words, thought I should clarify.
Post edited May 22, 2014 by Ophelium
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gorrister666: Just to clarify, only fags won't support Devolver Digital.
I think a fair number of people do seem to like the game. After looking at the video Judas linked, it piqued my interest. I like the idea of creating your own character and stuff.

I noticed that Matruchus had his posts down-repped quite a bit..
Post edited May 22, 2014 by Nicole28
Oh sweet! I read about this one a few weeks back, really glad to see it made it to GOG. I'll have to pick this up after I recover from the Insomnia Sale of DOOOOoooM. By the way, the Sam and Max games are as funny as people said. So, thank you all for that advice! :)