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Agarest: Generations of War - Collector's Edition, a fantastic kawaii tactical RPG coming with a full soundtrack, digital artbook, and more sweet, sweet bonus content, is available 50% off, DRM-free on GOG.com. With such a discount we don't see a good reason to pass on the collector's version, and get the cheaper regular edition, but if you make that call remember that you can always go for an upgrade later. The -50% discount for all three items (collectors edition, standard edition, and collector's edition upgrade) lasts until Monday, December 8, at 10:59AM GMT.

Agarest: Generations of War - Collector's Edition includes many unique features that cannot be found in any other Strategy Role Playing Game. It takes place across 5 generations of heroes, starting with your first character, Leonhardt. During each generation you will build relationships with 3 different female party members, and at the end of each generation's story arc you must choose to marry one of the girls. Unite with your chosen heroine and use the “Soul Breed” system to shape the fate of the next generation of heroes. Build your ultimate army of warriors and master Extra Skills, Special Arts and Over Kills to defeat colossal enemies! Choose the path of Darkness or Light through a truly epic story, spanning multiple generations, and battle hundreds of different creatures using an array of character abilities, in a compelling and innovative turn-based combat system.
Just to give me an idea, at what point are you supposed to hit a wall of grinding so to say? At 2nd gen or sooner?

I'm currently playing turn 40 of 1st gen on Normal (Dlc disabled).
Post edited December 06, 2014 by logorouge
Looks like GoG are pushing the definition of both 'Good' and 'Old' with this release. I will still give them 'Game'
This looks like almost the kind of game I want. But if I want to grind, I'll play an MMO. So no thanks.
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HGiles: This looks like almost the kind of game I want. But if I want to grind, I'll play an MMO. So no thanks.
Honestly, the further I play this game the more I'm starting to think the claims about its grinding aspect might be greatly exaggerated. Maybe there's a huge jump in difficulty between generations, but so far Gen 1 has been a very smooth ride despite using no dlc boost and gimping myself by selling important smithing materials by mistake early on (oops). Maybe one of the vets will be able to give some additional feedback on when the tedious grinding starts to hit, because so far I'm not seeing it at all.
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HGiles: This looks like almost the kind of game I want. But if I want to grind, I'll play an MMO. So no thanks.
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logorouge: Honestly, the further I play this game the more I'm starting to think the claims about its grinding aspect might be greatly exaggerated. Maybe there's a huge jump in difficulty between generations, but so far Gen 1 has been a very smooth ride despite using no dlc boost and gimping myself by selling important smithing materials by mistake early on (oops). Maybe one of the vets will be able to give some additional feedback on when the tedious grinding starts to hit, because so far I'm not seeing it at all.
Hmm.. that's good to hear. That was one of the reasons that held me back a bit from buying it.
Oh well looks like ill have to wishlist it for now
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HGiles: This looks like almost the kind of game I want. But if I want to grind, I'll play an MMO. So no thanks.
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logorouge: Honestly, the further I play this game the more I'm starting to think the claims about its grinding aspect might be greatly exaggerated. Maybe there's a huge jump in difficulty between generations, but so far Gen 1 has been a very smooth ride despite using no dlc boost and gimping myself by selling important smithing materials by mistake early on (oops). Maybe one of the vets will be able to give some additional feedback on when the tedious grinding starts to hit, because so far I'm not seeing it at all.
wondering that myself. there is grind then there *IS* grind....
Post edited December 11, 2014 by Niggles