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Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, but I've never had a functional problem with Steam.

edit: Oh goody, another new person with a superior attitude! Can't wait to read more. Insults are always enjoyable. "Please expand your horizons by allowing me to list all the ways you're wrong." :-)
Post edited June 23, 2013 by DieRuhe
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ne_zavarj: * grabs popcorn *
*Passes popcorn salt*
Good points. I have stated many times that this era of corporate cheerleading is very distressing. It is like people took the whole "Sega is best, not Nintendo!" thing, and added an uncannily familiar "What's good for <corporation X> is good for <Country of residence>" mantra. Very distressing.

I think it's a somewhat natural side effect of the modern phenomenon of people enjoying talking ABOUT things more than CONSUMING things.
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Potzato: Even if soime points here are valid, I support you in your rejection of steam.

And I don't agree about steam sales being good. It's not a good thing for the industry AND the gamer in my opinion, not even for many of our wallets. At all.
The sales are good for the smaller devs, and are good for the users that take advantage of them. A steam sale literally saved Introversion Software, for example. Without they putting Uplink on sale, there would be no Prison Architect at the moment since they would be no more.

It is bad for consumers when they are digital hoarders (like me), but the sales themselves are without a doubt good for the industry.
If I rage quit GOG the first time I had a problem running a game, or the second, or the third... I've had a lot more problems with GOG games than with Steam games, and that's a store that promises compatibility. (Granted these are older games, but the idea of rage quitting a store on this ground seems strange to me.)

First step, google for solutions. Post on relevant forums for help. If nothing works, try contacting Steam for a refund. They've been known for giving refunds (although it's said that they only do it once per user).
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RonnyRulz: Those with a stage of moral development past the average 13 year old (a rarity in humanity, as anyone with even a basic knowledge of Kohlberg's stages of moral development know that most humans, at least in western society, have the moral development of a teenager) are much more willing to understand your viewpoint and agree with you. Unfortunately the majority have the mentality of a child and thus see things in black/white, failing to comprehend beyond that (and beyond their tiny, ego-centric worldview).
The irony! It's too much!
Post edited June 24, 2013 by ET3D
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Dahmer666: Not sure why everyone's in love with Steam.
Not sure why anyone is in love with any game store, or anyone hates one vehemently. Stores are means of getting games. In the case of Steam the app is also a means of keeping them updated, sorting them, keeping in touch with gaming friends on Steam and some other things which for some add value.

Reminds me of Oracle, and I'm still trying to excise that shifty malware...
Oracle doesn't make malware. I assume it's an exaggeration on your part, an over-reaction like uninstalling Steam because a game doesn't work. And assuming you're talking about Java, here's a link to the page at Java.com explaining how to uninstall it.

I will absolutely never touch another console unless there are some radical changes. No interest in the PS4, the other option is just laughable... and Nintendo's in the toilet...
Consoles are a pretty good way to make sure games you buy actually work. (It's not 100% guaranteed, but it's close.)
Post edited June 24, 2013 by ET3D
Oops! mistake!
Post edited June 24, 2013 by dirtyharry50
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cah: With steam you sometimes win and sometimes lose. If you artificially limit yourself from it you will lose every time.
Selfcontradiction. Assuming your "sometimes you win and sometimes you lose" are based upon buying good stuff sometimes and buying bad stuff sometimes, never ever buying anything would lead to both losing and winning to, seeing as you would avoid buying all the bad stuff.
This is a case of risk-analysis, would never buying lead to more "win" scenarios (and would those type of win scenario weigh-in enough to it to be worth it?).





Anyway on to the topic: I myself tend to hate steam only due to it having some serious server issues from time to time and its ofline-mode being abyssmal, other then that i think steam is great.
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RonnyRulz: /snip snip!!
I confess up front to being a little lazy and skimming your post versus carefully reading it all. It's 2 in the morning here and I am a little tired. That's my story, etc.

From what I just gathered though, I am:

"a sell-out with no integrity"

because I like to shop on Steam I guess. I probably am too because I bought an Apple computer. I've bought some games on Origin too from the dreaded and terrible EA. I am trying to think of what else my sins might be whist coming clean here. Hmm. Well, I am too tired to keep going with the confession. That'll have to do. Bless me Father for I have sinned.

Let me just say that is a pretty foolish and ignorant statement to make about people who you know zero about, other than say the purchasing habits I just confessed to in this case. Actually, you know absolutely nothing about my integrity or really anything else about me.

I did however just learn some things about you from that diatribe. Here's a hint. They were not too good really.

Will the Steam rants ever end? Can there be no peace? Is there no hope for humanity?

Tune in on the GOG.com forums for news on these burning questions and more tomorrow and every day, right here on www.gog.com.
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Pheace: 20 bucks, good lord. Summer Sale is around the corner. Sim City 4 will be 2.50
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RonnyRulz: Why would anyone buy Sim City 4?
This is purely a guess from a dumbass with no integrity to speak of but I am just gonna toss this out:

Maybe somebody would buy Sim City 4 because they want to have fun.

I know. I know. Fucking stupid really. It's probably just people without integrity wanting to support the evil that is Electronic Arts and the many terrible things that they do.
Post edited June 24, 2013 by dirtyharry50
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RonnyRulz: Steam of course, proudly sells WAR Z (scam) so I promise you they would GLADLY sell Sim City 5 if they could, simply to get a few extra dollars.
I just tried searching for War Z on Steam and couldn't find it for some reason. I did see it the other day on sale and was very surprised at how many people were online playing it. The reason I searched just now was I wanted to find out how many people are playing it at this moment and having their fun despite my own and I guess your inability to imagine how that can even be possible. The point being, Steam served up a game some people like even if it does defy reason and they are not dishonest in how they do so. The 20 metacritic rating is right on the store page where you buy the game. At least it was the other day when I looked which is how I know it achieved a glorious 20 rating.
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dirtyharry50: I just tried searching for War Z on Steam and couldn't find it for some reason.
The game's name got changed to Infestation: Survivor Stories. Here's the link.

Edit: 1,986 In-Game
Post edited June 24, 2013 by ET3D
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dirtyharry50: From what I just gathered though, I am:

"a sell-out with no integrity"

because I like to shop on Steam I guess. I probably am too because I bought an Apple computer. I've bought some games on Origin too from the dreaded and terrible EA. I am trying to think of what else my sins might be whist coming clean here. Hmm. Well, I am too tired to keep going with the confession. That'll have to do. Bless me Father for I have sinned.
Now I see why you called yourself dirtyharry50... you dirty, dirty sinner!
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dirtyharry50: I just tried searching for War Z on Steam and couldn't find it for some reason. I did see it the other day on sale and was very surprised at how many people were online playing it. The reason I searched just now was I wanted to find out how many people are playing it at this moment and having their fun despite my own and I guess your inability to imagine how that can even be possible. The point being, Steam served up a game some people like even if it does defy reason and they are not dishonest in how they do so. The 20 metacritic rating is right on the store page where you buy the game. At least it was the other day when I looked which is how I know it achieved a glorious 20 rating.
I believe they changed the game's name.

edit: ninja'd. Oh well, at least I wasn't ninja'd by the templar.
Post edited June 24, 2013 by P1na
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DieRuhe: Maybe I'm in a parallel universe, but I've never had a functional problem with Steam.

edit: Oh goody, another new person with a superior attitude! Can't wait to read more. Insults are always enjoyable. "Please expand your horizons by allowing me to list all the ways you're wrong." :-)
Hmm, I must have warped into the same universe as you. I have been using Steam for over nine years now and I honestly cannot recall ever having a problem. I've purchased over 500 games from them and thus far I have just never had any problem purchasing or playing anything I wanted to whenever I wanted to. How do you like that?
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dirtyharry50: I just tried searching for War Z on Steam and couldn't find it for some reason.
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ET3D: The game's name got changed to Infestation: Survivor Stories. Here's the link.

Edit: 1,986 In-Game
Ah, thank you. Wow, almost two thousand people having fun. That is awful.
Post edited June 24, 2013 by dirtyharry50
I've had, let me think, three problems with Steam games. Bioshock didn't have sound (found a solution), Max Payne 1 just absolutely refused to run for months after I bought it until one day it did (resolved itself, possibly by magic), and there was something wrong with Scratches ... can't remember what, but the GOG release fixed it. Anyway, a perfectly acceptable tally given the number of games I've bought from them; GOG's sitting at about the same (Grimrock was overheating, and I had to copy files around to make Syberia run).

I'm not denying that people have trouble with Steam, but I definitely haven't noticed the massive, symptomatic problems that the GOG forums might sometimes lead one to expect... Even the infamous offline mode works fine.

Does anyone know if they improved WarZ when they changed its name? I didn't really follow that mess, aside from viewing TotalBiscuit's video.
Post edited June 24, 2013 by BadDecissions