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iD developed the games, the publisher was Apogee.
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Protoss: What happened to the Apogee Software I knew that sold Commander Keen, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, Duke Nukum [sic!], Monster Bash, Benny the Bookworm, Dark Ages, Captain Comic etc. for the same price worldwide?

Oh, wait, Bethesda bought their remains at some point...
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Fuzzyfireball: Apogee Software? Do you mean id Software?
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Avogadro6: iD developed the games, the publisher was Apogee.
According the internet, Apogee did develop most of their own games, but published some of the others. id only developed three of them. Two of the Keen games, and Wolfenstein 3D.
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Avogadro6: iD developed the games, the publisher was Apogee.
id Software allowed Apogee to publish Commander Keen & Wolfenstein 3D. They departed with Apogee after Wolf3D.
Don't chu dare fuck round with id games, fuzzyfireball be comin up all in yall grill to be correctin yo ass.
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Piemaster: Don't chu dare fuck round with id games, fuzzyfireball be comin up all in yall grill to be correctin yo ass.
I am a motherfucker.
The boxed version is £9.99 in GAME/Gamestation in the UK when i checked earlier this year.

Never buy AAA titles digitally because most of the time it's actually cheaper to get the boxed retail version anyway. Heck even Amazons usual price is £13 for a boxed copy and steam want to charge £14.99 as a 50% off 'sale' price.

Steam makes me laugh sometimes.
Post edited February 09, 2012 by Druidshinobi
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Druidshinobi: The boxed version is £9.99 in GAME/Gamestation in the UK when i checked earlier this year.

Never buy AAA titles digitally because most of the time it's actually cheaper to get the boxed retail version anyway. Heck even Amazons usual price is £13 for a boxed copy and steam want to charge £14.99 as a 50% off 'sale' price.

Steam makes me laugh sometimes.
It depends on the country. Here its much cheaper to get a digital version than the boxed one. For some reason boxed versions dont get price cuts here. Even an old game like Blacksite Area 51 still costs 50 dollars here on stores.
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Avogadro6: iD developed the games, the publisher was Apogee.
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Fuzzyfireball: id Software allowed Apogee to publish Commander Keen & Wolfenstein 3D. They departed with Apogee after Wolf3D.
Could anyone please remind me exactly why this happened? ID was not happy with Apogee for certain reasons?
We really need a centralized "bitch about non-US prices" thread. I've been reading these threads for 10 years now and they're all identical.
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StingingVelvet: We really need a centralized "bitch about non-US prices" thread. I've been reading these threads for 10 years now and they're all identical.
step right over to the Steam-powered user forums, please.

seriously though, this is so old i don't know why people keep bringing it up. obviously, this is the result of publishers trying to milk European customers either because their games happen to sell a bit better in Europe or just because they think they can get away with it. EA is notorious for doing this.

apparently, enough Europeans still buy the games, or the practice would have been stopped by now. the currently discounted Steam price of Rage brings it in line with local physical copies, so it's not all that surprising that some people will still buy it on Steam.
Post edited February 10, 2012 by Fred_DM
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Fred_DM: seriously though, this is so old i don't know why people keep bringing it up. obviously, this is the result of publishers trying to milk European customers either because their games happen to sell a bit better in Europe or just because they think they can get away with it. EA is notorious for doing this.
No, it's because boxed versions are more expensive there due to taxes, shipping and other such things and they contractually cannot charge less digitally.
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StingingVelvet: No, it's because boxed versions are more expensive there due to taxes, shipping and other such things and they contractually cannot charge less digitally.
i understand that, but some publishers keep asking the original MSRP for digital editions long after the physical editions have been reduced in price.

extreme example: Bulletstorm is still at the original EUR 49.99 on Steam. on Origin it was EUR 19.99 last time i checked. the locally sold physical edition has officially dropped (across all major retailers) to something like EUR 7-8. i kid you not.
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Fred_DM: i understand that, but some publishers keep asking the original MSRP for digital editions long after the physical editions have been reduced in price.
Well that's one of the several dangers of digital delivery, the publisher always controls the price. Amazon can discount a game to whatever they want.
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StingingVelvet: Well that's one of the several dangers of digital delivery, the publisher always controls the price. Amazon can discount a game to whatever they want.
Indeed. Digital products are exempted from the usual forces of supply and demand due to their having infinite supply. Digital products should by rights actually be free of charge, but instead they allow publishers to continue living in their own little dream world. The problem is that publishers seem to think that games do not age and that they will continue to be able to charge high prices.

Retail prices tend to reflect the actual state of demand, a fact no more clearly shown than in 2010 when Ubisoft's fuck-up with Assassin's Creed 2 meant that Assassin's Creed 1 for the PC ended up more expensive than Assassin's Creed 2.

I picked up Rage from Media Markt here in Germany for a paultry €19.99 two months ago.
Post edited February 10, 2012 by jamyskis
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jamyskis: Indeed. Digital products are exempted from the usual forces of supply and demand due to their having infinite supply. Digital products should by rights actually be free of charge, but instead they allow publishers to continue living in their own little dream world. The problem is that publishers seem to think that games do not age and that they will continue to be able to charge high prices.
But they do not have infinite demand sans they are not exempted from forces of supply and demand.

Furthermore publisher do think games age sans drops in prices for older games. Not for every game. COD games for example slowly drop in price but the reason is that Activision does not want people to buy older games.