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Posted December 10, 2009
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Navagon: Disc checks can cause compatibility issues that are not otherwise present in the game. TAGES tends to do this.

Never had those issues myself but yes, I have heard they exist. Still it is usually conflicts with things like Daemon Tools which I have never had on my PC in the first place.
Anyway if the thread is about no DRM what-so-ever disc check included games that is fine, I just wanted to clarify.
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood has nothing, as I said. I will try to think of more.
Posted December 10, 2009
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Gundato: Fun fact: Disc checks ARE DRM. Hell, they probably all have the Securom Disc Check (second link said that there was a disc check).
Don't confuse the Securom disc check (which has been around for something like 10 years I think) and the activation model (which has been around for two years or so).
What you seem to be/should be opposed to are Starforce (we are all opposed to that thing) and activation model DRM.
Either that or you have no idea what DRM is and are just opposed to it on principle alone :P

Ok, I get your point. I should have stated that I'm looking for DRM-free games or games with non-intrusive forms of DRM but every person has different views on what they consider intrusive. I'm not opposed to the activation model as long as it doesn't install a rootkit-like driver in the kernel and phones home every 5 seconds. I am in favor of GOO because the check is made only when I install the game and it isn't active at all at any other time.
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Lucibel: There's varying degrees of disk checks. The OP might not like Securom because it puts drivers on your system, just as Starforce does.

This is basically my stance. If Securom doesn't install a driver in my system for the disc check then I'm not opposed to it. I didn't know that not all versions of Securom used nowadays used the kernel driver; it's good to know that I can buy Fallout 3 then :D
Post edited December 10, 2009 by OmegaX
Posted December 10, 2009
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StingingVelvet: Never had those issues myself but yes, I have heard they exist. Still it is usually conflicts with things like Daemon Tools which I have never had on my PC in the first place.

If a game has conflicts with Daemon Tools then there's more to that DRM then a disc check. That's for sure. No, actually I was referring to how TAGES has problems with Windows 7 in ways that a 'fixed' version of the game does not.
Posted December 10, 2009
I too buy DRM Free games. YOu can check this thread out for a few listed.
As for the latest Prince of Persia, GoGamer has it for like $7.90.
Hope this helps a bit.
Post edited December 10, 2009 by Faithful
Posted December 10, 2009
The US version of Men of War (published by Aspyr) has no DRM.
Dragon Age: Origins has just a plain disk check.
Posted December 10, 2009
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Faithful: YOu can check this thread out for a few listed.

I added some there I either looked over or didn't see here/there.
Posted December 10, 2009
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Gundato: Actually, to my knowledge, no securom that JUST checks the disc puts drivers on the system.

To my knowledge it does. Unless the Securom registry entries on my computer are there just for fun.
Posted December 10, 2009
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Wolfox: The US version of Men of War (published by Aspyr) has no DRM.

A lot of Aspyr products in the US do not have any form of copy protection I believe. I can verify Dark Sector has no form of copy protection. Not sure about Cryostasis, but I believe it does not either.
Not sure about their recent Star Wars game port.
Posted December 10, 2009
I can confirm that the physical copy of Batman : Arkham Asylum used a SecuROM disc check that did not install anything more. It just functions as a disc check. So such a thing does exist.
Posted December 11, 2009
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Crassmaster: I can confirm that the physical copy of Batman : Arkham Asylum used a SecuROM disc check that did not install anything more. It just functions as a disc check. So such a thing does exist.

If we do not consider Games for Windows Live DRM then there are several GFWL titles that have no disc check or DRM what-so-ever. I know Halo 2 is one.
Posted December 11, 2009
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captfitz: GET THE NEW PRINCE OF PERSIA
you will thank me. what an awesome game.

Stop lying.
Posted December 11, 2009
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captfitz: GET THE NEW PRINCE OF PERSIA
you will thank me. what an awesome game.

I've played the first screens on a friend's Xbox 360, and it seems to me an uninteresting reboot of a reboot (...) that should have been dead with The Warrior Within some years ago....
Posted December 11, 2009
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captfitz: GET THE NEW PRINCE OF PERSIA
you will thank me. what an awesome game.
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KingofGnG: I've played the first screens on a friend's Xbox 360, and it seems to me an uninteresting reboot of a reboot (...) that should have been dead with The Warrior Within some years ago....

that's because all you do in the first 15 minutes is run on walls in a blocky tutorial canyon
if you still don't like it after you've at least gotten your first power plate, then tell me
it turns into this huge, sort-of-open-world game where your will do insane wall climbing/acrobatics, combat is entirely different and very fun, and the graphics and art are absolutely incredible, the best in a AAA game since shadow of the colossus
Posted December 11, 2009
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KingofGnG: I've played the first screens on a friend's Xbox 360, and it seems to me an uninteresting reboot of a reboot (...) that should have been dead with The Warrior Within some years ago....
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captfitz: that's because all you do in the first 15 minutes is run on walls in a blocky tutorial canyon
if you still don't like it after you've at least gotten your first power plate, then tell me
it turns into this huge, sort-of-open-world game where your will do insane wall climbing/acrobatics, combat is entirely different and very fun, and the graphics and art are absolutely incredible, the best in a AAA game since shadow of the colossus

The problem is that everything is on auto-pilot... it is more a rhythym game that an action of platforming game. It had a lot of potential for me with the new look and somewhat open world, but in the end the gameplay just isn't fun. Pressing buttons in sequence while the computer has all the fun.
Posted December 11, 2009
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StingingVelvet: The problem is that everything is on auto-pilot... it is more a rhythym game that an action of platforming game. It had a lot of potential for me with the new look and somewhat open world, but in the end the gameplay just isn't fun. Pressing buttons in sequence while the computer has all the fun.

just one more off topic post:
i knew a lot of people wouldn't like that once i started getting into the levels and realized it. PoP is not like other games, the fluid pacing and the rhythm that you noticed make it flow, you just have to let yourself be absorbed in it, it can be very mesmerizing.
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