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OldFatGuy: snip
Believing US action movies, US govt. has access to all cameras in the world, and they can zoom and enhance every image from every camera :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk
Post edited March 30, 2012 by keeveek
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OldFatGuy: It's revealed that a company is sharing personal order information without consent, and what do most posters do?? DEFEND THE COMPANY!!! OF COURSE THEY DO!!!
Now now. If the thread title was changed slightly to say 'Steam' instead of 'Gog' you'd have had people falling over each other blaming Valve, so it's not always right to defense :p
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keeveek: And GOG uses it only for statistics. How we would know how many gogs were sold, bestelling titles, etc?
Lol, so you are saying that any user who blocks google is not counted at all on GOG's statistics? That could be quite a lot of people by looking only at popularity of NoScript = statistics data fail... xD
Post edited March 30, 2012 by Lexor
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keeveek: And GOG uses it only for statistics. How we would know how many gogs were sold, bestelling titles, etc?
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Lexor: Lol, so you are saying that any user who blocks google is not counted at all on GOG's statistics? That could be quite a lot of people by looking only at popularity of NoScript = statistics data fail... xD
Well, I think they add a random data to the statistics every time they show them xD
Shall I fetch the tin foil?

Yes, GOG should have disclosed this information to us when we place an order. EU legislation requires that any information regarding our order or person sent to third parties, and in that respect GOG has broken the law.

In practical terms, however, no real harm has been done. As some have correctly stated, there is a fundamental flaw with this statement...
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AstralWanderer: Order ID is individual and so can be linked to personal details by GOG or anyone else with access to GOG's database.
...namely, that the only ones with access to GOG's database are GOG themselves. If anyone gets access to GOG's database, then they will also have access to the order data including the order IDs anyway. Nothing can come from simply disclosing an order ID code that a hacker hacking into GOG's server wouldn't be able to discover without that information.

If GOG started transmitting information like names, credit card information, IPs or the like, THEN I'd start worrying.
GOG.com was able to code a new site, but not a decent purchase tracking without the help of Google ? :(

So our privacy is sacrificed...
:sad panda:
Post edited March 30, 2012 by Qbix
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Lexor: Lol, so you are saying that any user who blocks google is not counted at all on GOG's statistics? That could be quite a lot of people by looking only at popularity of NoScript = statistics data fail... xD
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keeveek: Well, I think they add a random data to the statistics every time they show them xD
I'm just saying that "your argument is invalid" in polite way because in place of GOG I will estimate such usage of google as completely unreliable. For personal use such statistics could be "yes maybe", but for business it is "no way" for me. They have all the data already so I think they do not need just to use google for that as it is much easier to use simple query on their database.
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Fuzzyfireball: Welcome to the internet, your privacy is already fucked.
Ditto.
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jamyskis: If GOG started transmitting information like names, credit card information, IPs or the like, THEN I'd start worrying.
Yes, you are right here. I think current flaw is eliminated by using noscript and other similar blocking plugins. But interesting thing is: why do they do that at all? Is it programmer mistake or by design? If by design then every user should be notified about that when placing an order.
Post edited March 30, 2012 by Lexor
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jamyskis: If GOG started transmitting information like names, credit card information, IPs or the like, THEN I'd start worrying.
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Lexor: Yes, you are right here. I think current flaw is eliminated by using noscript and other similar blocking plugins. But interesting thing is: why do they do that at all? Is it programmer mistake or by design? If by design then every user should be notified about that when placing an order.
Maybe it's just because Google analytics tools are GOOD? :P
...so, in summary, the problem is that GOG is using Google Analytics for their sales' statistics, but Google evil tendencies to aggregate and link to profiles all personal data it can reach makes it a privacy concern.

Thanks to pointing it out to GOG - telling why we are concerned is important. They didn't wanted to use geolocation at all at first for sales, but where forced to, and they are minimalist regarding personal data usage, so they seem to be more privacy-aware that most stores.

Are there better and still time/cost-effective services/solutions around?
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Lexor: Yes, you are right here. I think current flaw is eliminated by using noscript and other similar blocking plugins. But interesting thing is: why do they do that at all? Is it programmer mistake or by design? If by design then every user should be notified about that when placing an order.
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keeveek: Maybe it's just because Google analytics tools are GOOD? :P
But they are outer tools - any self designed tool is much better as it can be more suited to the needs and modified at any time.
Maybe their programmists wages are so small, they didn't even ask them to do it? :D

To be serious, it would be nice to hear some explanation: why google analytics, and what data is collected in general.
Dude, you can't do ANYTHING on the net without Google knowing your movements, just about every piece of traffic goes through them.
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Tormentfan: Dude, you can't do ANYTHING on the net without Google knowing your movements, just about every piece of traffic goes through them.
Google are not the Panopticon.

Yet.