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Posted May 26, 2011
Of course they have. He hasn't said anything for a very long time.

And no they couldn't.

Without the Astronomican functional, no one can really get anywhere.
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Azarr: The psyker that was probably closest to him in power, didn't really last very long on the Golden Throne.

That ttech has already sustained him for a long time so far. Plus what Delixe said.
It won't work forever though. Tech eventually breaks down or fails, even with maintenance. And his last cells won 't last forever without active cell division to make new ones.
Posted May 26, 2011
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GameRager: They could simply transfer hie will into the new body via the same tech keeping his old one alive while keeping his will alive and running the beacon/etc.
Transferring his will would sever the connection to the Astronomican effectively stopping all Warp Travel and brinigng the Imperium crashing down with no FTL travel. Go and read the article again you are not thinking it through.
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Azarr: Of course they have. He hasn't said anything for a very long time.

And no they couldn't.
Yes, they could. With all that tech they could....they just don't want to.


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GameRager: They could simply transfer hie will into the new body via the same tech keeping his old one alive while keeping his will alive and running the beacon/etc.
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Delixe: Transferring his will would sever the connection to the Astronomican effectively stopping all Warp Travel and brinigng the Imperium crashing down with no FTL travel. Go and read the article again you are not thinking it through.
I read it.....so they couldn't live without FTL travel for a half hour or so?
Post edited May 26, 2011 by GameRager
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Azarr: The psyker that was probably closest to him in power, didn't really last very long on the Golden Throne.

That ttech has already sustained him for a long time so far. Plus what Delixe said.
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GameRager: It won't work forever though. Tech eventually breaks down or fails, even with maintenance. And his last cells won 't last forever without active cell division to make new ones.
His will sustains him. There's also a reason CSM likes to call him a corpse. Now stop trying to bring reality into this.
Posted May 26, 2011
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Popinjay: Avatar of Kaine! Speaking of which, why on earth would you make a game about space marines when you could make one about Eldar and you could just run around as Kaine kicking arse? That would be way cooler.
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Aatami: Eldar are boring. Bring on the Orks!
An' smash dem puny 'umies.
Also: Needs moar dakka!
Posted May 26, 2011
Since you are just arguing for sake of arguing...

No they couldn't. They don't know how tech works. Period. If they could bring back Emperor they would.
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GameRager: It won't work forever though. Tech eventually breaks down or fails, even with maintenance. And his last cells won 't last forever without active cell division to make new ones.
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Azarr: His will sustains him. There's also a reason CSM likes to call him a corpse. Now stop trying to bring reality into this.
It seems you guys are too fanatic(pun intended) about the whole thing to allow alternative viewpoints. :\

Even if his will sustains him his body(the link keeping his soul in their realm) is falling apart...it won't last forever.)

Also a little reality might improve upon the series, dont you think?
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chris.frukacz: Since you are just arguing for sake of arguing...

No they couldn't. They don't know how tech works. Period. If they could bring back Emperor they would.
I'm not arguing. I just am suggesting new ways to branch the whole Warhammer universe and you don't seem to like it because it clashes with what you want to see happen.
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Azarr: His will sustains him. There's also a reason CSM likes to call him a corpse. Now stop trying to bring reality into this.
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GameRager: It seems you guys are too fanatic(pun intended) about the whole thing to allow alternative viewpoints. :\

Even if his will sustains him his body(the link keeping his soul in their realm) is falling apart...it won't last forever.)

Also a little reality might improve upon the series, dont you think?
His body isn't falling apart, because his will sustains him. He is a psyker, powerful beyond belief.

No.
Posted May 26, 2011
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GameRager: It seems you guys are too fanatic(pun intended) about the whole thing to allow alternative viewpoints. :\
We just know the fluff which you dont seem to. You are mentioning technologies like transferring his will which doesn't exist in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. The Imperium is stuck with keeping him where he is, praying for the Star Child or hoping the heretics are right and he can be reborn by the sacrifice of the Sensei. There are no other options and it's futile to postulate on them.
Posted May 26, 2011
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GameRager: Also a little reality might improve upon the series, dont you think?
Nearest Commissar, Chaplain or Inquisitor might be interested more in this heresy.
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GameRager: It seems you guys are too fanatic(pun intended) about the whole thing to allow alternative viewpoints. :\

Even if his will sustains him his body(the link keeping his soul in their realm) is falling apart...it won't last forever.)

Also a little reality might improve upon the series, dont you think?
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Azarr: His body isn't falling apart, because his will sustains him. He is a psyker, powerful beyond belief.

No.
1. Again that's your opinion.......also stop being such a fanboy already and at leats try to entertain alternate ideas here. I mean would it be the end of the world(not literally but for fans) if they changed it a bit?

Fanboy detected......I like being fans of stuff too, but too much getting into something, anything, is very unhealthy.


Some stuff about rebirth eventually and it being canon if it ever happened in the wikia:


"A controversial belief amongst Imperial scholars, the Star Child Theory has two aspects: the first is that the Emperor's soul is currently forming as a new entity (the Star Child) in the Warp and that he will be reborn - a theory not dissimilar to the belief surrounding the potential Eldar god Ynnead- and the second is that the Emperor had children."

"After the defeat of Horus, most of the Emperor's soul is said to have dispersed from his body, merging into the warp in much the same way as that of the shamans, so many millenia before. It is believed that the Emperor - while apparently designed and empowered by the shamans to live forever - also possesses their ability to reincarnate, and that this would be his eventual goal. Avoiding discovery by the Chaos powers, it is believed that the Emperor was able to plant the seed of his reincarnation, a potential new soul awaiting birth: The Star Child. However, it is also believed that this new soul cannot be born while the Emperor is still tied to the Golden Throne, no matter how tenuously."
Posted May 26, 2011
What @Delixe said. Don't expect much change as anything major would ubset the balance in power between races/factions etc and that is what tabletop is all about. Whatever plot games and books come up with it's not going to change anything in grand scale of the Warhammer universe.
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GameRager: It seems you guys are too fanatic(pun intended) about the whole thing to allow alternative viewpoints. :\
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Delixe: We just know the fluff which you dont seem to. You are mentioning technologies like transferring his will which doesn't exist in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. The Imperium is stuck with keeping him where he is, praying for the Star Child or hoping the heretics are right and he can be reborn by the sacrifice of the Sensei. There are no other options and it's futile to postulate on them.
I just posted about the star child, and it seems he can't become it while on the throne. Again, they need to disconnect him already if they even want that to happen.
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chris.frukacz: What @Delixe said. Don't expect much change as anything major would ubset the balance in power between races/factions etc and that is what tabletop is all about. Whatever plot games and books come up with it's not going to change anything in grand scale of the Warhammer universe.
I really could care less about tabeltop players. They're not the only Warhammer fans anyways, and they could always adapt.
Post edited May 26, 2011 by GameRager
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GameRager: "A controversial belief amongst Imperial scholars, the Star Child Theory has two aspects: the first is that the Emperor's soul is currently forming as a new entity (the Star Child) in the Warp and that he will be reborn - a theory not dissimilar to the belief surrounding the potential Eldar god Ynnead- and the second is that the Emperor had children."

"After the defeat of Horus, most of the Emperor's soul is said to have dispersed from his body, merging into the warp in much the same way as that of the shamans, so many millenia before. It is believed that the Emperor - while apparently designed and empowered by the shamans to live forever - also possesses their ability to reincarnate, and that this would be his eventual goal. Avoiding discovery by the Chaos powers, it is believed that the Emperor was able to plant the seed of his reincarnation, a potential new soul awaiting birth: The Star Child. However, it is also believed that this new soul cannot be born while the Emperor is still tied to the Golden Throne, no matter how tenuously."
I mentioned them and you know. They might be WRONG. The Inquisition will not take the risk. That's the in-story reason.

As chris.frukacz points out the real reason is that they want to keep selling Warhammer 40,000 and they won't do that by advancing the story. Ynnead and The Star Child will never be born, Cypher will never reach Lion El Johnson, Ghazghull will never unite the clans and Eldrad will never be confirmed dead.
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