The onus of proof lies on the shoulders of the people who make a claim. Since no religion has ever, in the entire history of mankind, given the slightest semblance of proof, it's obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that the entire thing is a sham. But hey, keep believing in flying spaghetti monsters if you really want to. We sane folk just reserve the right to laugh at you.

Someone hasn't yet visited my workshop of eveel!

I demand ONE MILLION DOLLARS or I will release these Velociraptors that I paid... oh wait, wtf?

I just looted the fridge. I may have raided it too.

But I didn't raze it. We're not animals, after all.

Ah, human hubris at its finest. You keep on showing off your immense ignorance while I sit back and pity the extent of your intellectual pauperization.

Translation: I have no means whatsoever of proving that the crazy things I believe in exist, so I'll call you ignorant so I can feel better about myself. Typical religious response.

I don't need the pity of someone so lost that he needs to find meaning to his existence in man-made specters and myth. Enjoy your delusions.

Could you just stop with the religious bashing already?

That the TRUE rapture is at hand and we're all gonna divid by zero & die?!?

AMEN, BRUDDA GAMERAGER! AMEN.

Target any other group and see what would happen. If I started a Christian gamer thread, what would happen? Hetero's weren't jumping on the gay thread to tell them they are wrong.

And enjoy your oblivion, Mr. I-only-acknowledge-what-can-be-proven-by-scientific-means.

The people like that are no better than those who blindly follow the religion they bash, really. Both groups say believe in me because the other side is wrong and I can never be wrong...et al.

The worst thing about discussions like this one is the magnitude of the generalizations and biased presumptions made (for an example just look at the title I just gave him in a parodistic manner). Just because I don’t rule out that some assumptions made by religions are valid that means I am religious, deluded, “lost” and what not? Fuck that.

Science admits its wrong all the time. That's part of the scientific process. Sometimes things get blundered, hidden, screwed up, are flat out wrong, but eventually it comes out. Since we've been talking about Mars in another thread, that's a perfect example of this; the John Carter of Mars series, and War of the Worlds, came about specifically because of bad scientific information about the red planet, that was eventually discovered to be wrong.

Science, however, doesn't tend to run around forcing people to do things their way on pain of death, ostracizing, imprisonment, murder, confiscation, murder, etc. How many scientists were known to set fire on a regular basis to people who said they were wrong, after all?

Dude, I agree in part...but could you tone it down just a smidge? Just saying tones like this are what got me in hot water with the morons and i'd not like to see you drop off the site.

Also yes, generalizations...like if you say you're religious people automatically think and state that you MUST follow the Catholic bible/faith/god image ideas & call you stupid for it. And then you have some religious calling all atheists dumb for bashing them when not all of them do this.