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orcishgamer: My take is that's merely a red herring. Just like someone marrying their dog, or whatever other silly stuff people have come up with to avoid facing their prejudices.
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Demut: Then have another take. Should incestous marriage be legalized? And please explain why or why not. I am sensing bias on your part here.
Personally I'm ok with incestuous marriage and don't see any reason why brother/sister cousins etc couldn't marry. The genetic argument is pretty weak this day and age.

I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though, because that parent has an obligation to raise their child, and the child could be unfairly influenced - the same as statutory rape or ethics between students/teachers etc.

marrying an animal I would not condone, because that animal cannot choose for itself, it amounts to abuse, due to lack of consent/awareness.
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Demut: Then have another take. Should incestous marriage be legalized? And please explain why or why not. I am sensing bias on your part here.
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brother-eros: Personally I'm ok with incestuous marriage and don't see any reason why brother/sister cousins etc couldn't marry. The genetic argument is pretty weak this day and age.

I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though, because that parent has an obligation to raise their child, and the child could be unfairly influenced - the same as statutory rape or ethics between students/teachers etc.

marrying an animal I would not condone, because that animal cannot choose for itself, it amounts to abuse, due to lack of consent/awareness.
Incest, more like WINcest...amirite? (lol I mean adults not kids you sickos....lol)
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orcishgamer: My take is that's merely a red herring. Just like someone marrying their dog, or whatever other silly stuff people have come up with to avoid facing their prejudices.
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Demut: Then have another take. Should incestous marriage be legalized? And please explain why or why not. I am sensing bias on your part here.

@jeffreydean1: Skepticism for the win!
Parent/Child absolutely not. Do I even need to explain? Siblings and such are trickier because of all the possible problems that we wouldn't know about because they are ostricized. It seemed to work for Rome but so did ALOT.
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GameRager: Incest, more like WINcest...amirite? (lol I mean adults not kids you sickos....lol)
Ne'er a truer word than spoken in jest :P
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GameRager: Incest, more like WINcest...amirite? (lol I mean adults not kids you sickos....lol)
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brother-eros: Ne'er a truer word than spoken in jest :P
I meant it....i'm no sicko, but things like lesbian twins don't not make me happy.
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brother-eros: I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though[...]
I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
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brother-eros: I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though[...]
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Demut: I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
Only if it were two smokin hot asian twins...named Fook U and Fook Mi
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brother-eros: I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though[...]
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Demut: I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
I would put the limit for incest among siblings at 18 so that parents couldn't try to encourage or groom them. Otherwise CPS would have to take a look at the parents. I am all for live and let live but you have to make sure no one is hurt or exploited.
Unless its a rapey relationship.

EDIT: The possibility of a gay incest relationship just occured to me that would put a hole in the incestual reproduction argument.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by Tulivu
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Demut: I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
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GameRager: Only if it were two smokin hot asian twins...named Fook U and Fook Mi
lol

seriously though, like I said just before, two adults, go for it, no problem from me. If they really feel like they love each other in that way, who are we to judge?
You don’t even have to go as far as that, Tulivu. This can be contested even easier as shown before.
Post edited May 25, 2011 by Demut
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Demut: You don’t even have to go as far as that, Tulivu.
If we weren't going all the way this wouldn't be an issue.
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brother-eros: I think I would have to philosophically make a distinction between parents and children though[...]
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Demut: I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
Incest always carries the possibility of abuse or exploitation, even between adults. That concerns me more than anything else. I believe it is highly unlikely that anyone could have a psychologically healthy incestuous relationship, because it goes against parent-child and sibling imprintings, but there is very little in human relationships that is impossible.

States have long outlawed incest and consanguinity on public health grounds and will probably continue to do so. The lack of clamor to relax these laws is an indication that there is little interest in recognizing such relationships, and this is very different from the situation with same-sex relationships.

Or maybe you can cite statistics that indicate that you are doing something other than setting up a straw man with your continuing effort to conflate discussion of homosexual relationships with incest?
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cjrgreen: Or maybe you can cite statistics [...]
What kind of statistics are you talking about?

Also, your objections fails horribly when the relatives did not know each other before they turned 18.
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Demut: I am still waiting for the green one’s answer but alright: Would it be OK if both were adults?
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cjrgreen: Incest always carries the possibility of abuse or exploitation, even between adults. That concerns me more than anything else. I believe it is highly unlikely that anyone could have a psychologically healthy incestuous relationship, because it goes against parent-child and sibling imprintings, but there is very little in human relationships that is impossible.

States have long outlawed incest and consanguinity on public health grounds and will probably continue to do so. The lack of clamor to relax these laws is an indication that there is little interest in recognizing such relationships, and this is very different from the situation with same-sex relationships.

Or maybe you can cite statistics that indicate that you are doing something other than setting up a straw man with your continuing effort to conflate discussion of homosexual relationships with incest?
1. Every relationship carries the same risks. And all incestuous couplings that have mental issues is more due to sciety causing them with shunning/etc than anything else.

2. Agreed....
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cjrgreen: Or maybe you can cite statistics [...]
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Demut: What kind of statistics are you talking about?

Also, your objections fails horribly when the relatives did not know each other before they turned 18.
You saw that Law and Order episode, too? OMG I can't believe Stabler is leaving the show.