Greedo shooting first is just a mod of Han shooting first.

I know more about mods and game engine than you, I can say without doubting.
I couldnt care less about the gravity gun, in hl2 i only used it when it was absolutely necessary, or when there was no other gun like in the last level. I played hl1 more than hl2, and that one did not have a gravity gun. I played hl2 because of the story, the game itself, the game world, and because i've been wanting to see if i can get to the artic pole. Valve gets away with putting a nice shiny coat of paint on mods by 3rd parties, buying them up and renting them, not selling them, on their DRM store. I'm not impressed.
No, Chronicles of Riddick had its own engine made by Starbreeze, not by id software. And actually, that engine came out before doom 3, and had many of its features like bump mapping, displacement maps and such. Unreal Tournament 3 is a mod of the Unreal Engine 3, one of the earliest.


I may check it out, if I can do that ps3 / pc swindle thing.
I dont consider portal a full fletched SP game, a nice puzzle-based game for handheld devices to kill time, yes, but it's not a SP game. Which doesnt make it a bad game, it's just not my taste, and Valve is stalling the half life games with these gimmicky puzzlers. I remember how some Valve fanboys were claiming Portal 2 will tie to the half life story, is there any mention of it on Portal 2?

btw, i think gabe's been eating too many potato sacks, hasnt he?

What, it's not a full SP game because it doesn't give you a gun? I guess Layton and Phoenix Wright aren't "Full SP games" either, are they?

Again, you haven't played Portal 2 (you said so yourself), so Portal 2's status as an SP game isn't exactly something you can debate. And you certainly wouldn't be calling Portal 2 a "mod" or "3rd party product". Portal 1 and 2 were made entirely in-house. Sure, it used the same CONCEPT as Narbacular Drop. It's like calling Quake a mod because it uses a gun, just like Doom used a gun.

And I'm sick and tired of this "renting, not selling" bullshit. They are selling you a game. You own it. End of story. You can argue semantics all you want, but at the end of the day, it's in your account, your copy is yours alone to play, and even when they de-list games, they still exist in your queue.

No, you really don't know what a mod is.

And the rest of your post is ill-informed ranting based almost solely around the fact that you like Half-Life more than Valve's other properties and feel entitled to throw a baseless hissy fit over it.

How many mods have you released?

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Dear god go look up the difference between, Game and Mod, followed by Middleware and Game engine.

A Mod takes the code and assets of a game and MODifies them. By your definition every game released in the last 15 years or so is a Mod.

Unreal tournament is a GAME build using the unreal engine. Garysmod is a MOD that uses the code and assets of the halflife games (and can use many assets from other games using the SOURCE engine). Defense of the Ancients is a MOD of Warcraft 3. Mass effect is a GAME that uses the unreal engine.

Another way to think of it Mods require you to own another program to play a game just requires you own the game (yes expansions count as mods)

It's just a bunch of physics based gimmicks, like what half life 2 had at some points of the game. A gun doesnt make a SP game, a complete new engine, with complete new content including textures, 3d models, sounds, new gameplay, story if needed, and a special features that innovate makes it a SP game. This is just a glorified flash game. Made in-house of course. id software doesnt make games too, they make 3d engines.

And no, you dont own anything on steam.

Wow I must imagine games like Doom and Quake then.. MIND BLOWN!

Okay guys, I think it's pretty clear that we've either got a troll or an idiot here. I'd say it'd be best to just ignore him and get back to talking about the game.

Reason, exit stage right.

I enjoyed it a lot, and it was clear that a TON of effort went into making sure that every aspect of it was perfect.

However, I just thought the puzzles teetered between easy and monotonous. I'm not trying to claim I'm some uber-intelligent superhuman or anything, but surely other people were a little put off by the fact that they repeated a lot of solution elements between puzzles? Also, I thought the experience drug a little during the long stretches of closed-chamber testing.

And maybe I'm just a little annoyed because I "messed up" the ending. But I won't spoil the specifics of that because the ending really is a treat.

Overall, 9/10. I still liked it a lot, but I have to say I was disappointed with a few things.

EDIT: Disclaimer, I haven't played the co-op mode yet. I plan to in a week or two once my friend finally buys his copy. I've just talked about the single-player here.

One thing that I have heard complaints about but that I really appreaciate is the lack of memes. This was in fact intentional. While there were tons of memorable moments in Portal, the developers stated that they tired of the memes before everyone else (they wrote the stuff) and tried to avoid acknowledging previous ones and create new ones. You see more I <3 Campanion Cube/Cake is a Lie in bathroom stalls than penis's (not a real complaint there).
Do expect plush turrets, though.

Please disregard the following: If they were to make a talking model w/ laser sight that would be sweeeeeeeet.

EDIT: ... DRAWN in bathroom stalls.

The Last Remnant is my favourite UT3 mod.

My apologies for perhaps a childish/immature comment but...

Since when did Chel have such HUGE lips?