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langurmonkey: Time for you to cloak and hide out in the bitch about life thread. Then wait for me to bitch, then do clock and fire photon torpedoes.
That one still wasn't trolling, nyah :p

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langurmonkey: *snip*
Dude, I think you're the one who doesn't understand the other guy's posts. Calm down a bit.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by Adzeth
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langurmonkey: You are just too retarded to understand that culture is very important. And like a retard, confronted with something a retard can not understand, you say my posts are completely pointless and it is more fun to have a discussion with a wall.
Well, talk about negative conclusions about people..

Of course your posts are pointless: they are from a completely different culture that no one has any idea what it is. And if culture is so important, well I'm completely stumped in understanding you in any way. So you might as well start talking in a completely different language as much as that matters.
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langurmonkey: You are just too retarded to understand that culture is very important. And like a retard, confronted with something a retard can not understand, you say my posts are completely pointless and it is more fun to have a discussion with a wall.
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WBGhiro: Well, talk about negative conclusions about people..

Of course your posts are pointless: they are from a completely different culture that no one has any idea what it is. And if culture is so important, well I'm completely stumped in understanding you in any way. So you might as well start talking in a completely different language as much as that matters.
My previous posts with you contain facts. Most things being cultural = FACT. Culture is very important = FACT. It's not that hard, really. Save up some money and spend the next 10 to 15 years living all over the world, and maybe you'll understand. Maybe you'll understand why I'm always saying this is cultural, that is cultural.

"Well, talk about negative conclusions about people.."
What did you expect after accusing someone of writing pointless posts and calling that same someone more boring than a wall? Don't act like you are some kind of angel.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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DaCostaBR: How did it work? All he did was interrupt the guy. Yes, he got Joe to change the subject once he saw he wouldn't get a straight answer, but all Joe wanted was to inform his viewers, and inform he did by showing how unprepared they were to answer any real question. On the other hand, what Nelson wanted was to convince people to buy his product, but he convinced neither Joe nor anyone watching the interview, therefore he lost.
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langurmonkey: I thought Joe wanted to get answers from Major Nelson for his viewers. Major Nelson didn't give him any answers while constantly promoting the XBOX ONE as something for great for families, something of the FUTURE. Major Nelson's responses also could not be argued because everything Major Nelson said is true. I think Major Nelson was being really smart. Major Nelson didn't give any answers that would make the XBOX ONE look bad. So he stopped Joe. What he did worked. Answering without answering, while at the same time, promoting the XBOX ONE and getting AngryJoe to join in on the promoting.
This is interesting, I had watched the beginning part of the interview before but stopped after a couple of minutes. It was completely obvious to me that this 'Major Nelson' was answering without answering and didn't have anything interesting to say. At least in my case, him being 'smart' backfired. Even though I know little about the topic and nothing about him, I came away thinking he was an idiot in a very short time.

Now in addition to the absurd ideas they had for the new xbox one, I also dislike their public faces on a more personal level. If he had answered questions directly instead and hadn't tried to promote the xbox so hard, if he had compelling reasons for his answers that he could explain, then my opinion of him and possibly even the xbox one may have changed.
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langurmonkey: I thought Joe wanted to get answers from Major Nelson for his viewers. Major Nelson didn't give him any answers while constantly promoting the XBOX ONE as something for great for families, something of the FUTURE. Major Nelson's responses also could not be argued because everything Major Nelson said is true. I think Major Nelson was being really smart. Major Nelson didn't give any answers that would make the XBOX ONE look bad. So he stopped Joe. What he did worked. Answering without answering, while at the same time, promoting the XBOX ONE and getting AngryJoe to join in on the promoting.
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devoras: This is interesting, I had watched the beginning part of the interview before but stopped after a couple of minutes. It was completely obvious to me that this 'Major Nelson' was answering without answering and didn't have anything interesting to say. At least in my case, him being 'smart' backfired. Even though I know little about the topic and nothing about him, I came away thinking he was an idiot in a very short time.

Now in addition to the absurd ideas they had for the new xbox one, I also dislike their public faces on a more personal level. If he had answered questions directly instead and hadn't tried to promote the xbox so hard, if he had compelling reasons for his answers that he could explain, then my opinion of him and possibly even the xbox one may have changed.
I think answering without answering is a victory for Major Nelson because answering without answering aka being a politician is what his boss wanted from him... So he gets to keep his job... IMAGINE if he really answered Joe's questions. I don't think Major Nelson would be popular with Microsoft after that...
Post edited June 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: My previous posts with you contain facts. Most things being cultural = FACT. Culture is very important = FACT. It's not that hard, really. Save up some money and spend the next 10 to 15 years living all over the world, and maybe you'll understand.
Culture is important, yes I get that and I agree to a certain degree. But listen, I'm going to guess you're not a buddhist priest an african shaman or an eskimo. You're american. We speak the same language and have the same values more or less, yes there's some minor differences in every nation but damn. Why can everyone make themselves understood in here, and you're the only one that comes from a completely different culture that can't accept any objection. That's really the only thing I want to know I don't care about thinking less of you or having something to make fun of you. I just want to know why I can communicate with you on the same level.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by WBGhiro
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langurmonkey: My previous posts with you contain facts. Most things being cultural = FACT. Culture is very important = FACT. It's not that hard, really. Save up some money and spend the next 10 to 15 years living all over the world, and maybe you'll understand.
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WBGhiro: Culture is important, yes I get that and I agree to a certain degree. But listen, I'm going to guess you're not a buddhist priest an african shaman or an eskimo. You're american. We speak the same language and have the same values more or less, yes there's some minor differences in every nation but damn. Why can everyone make themselves understood in here, and you're the only one that comes from a completely different culture that can't accept any objection. That's really the only thing I want to know I don't care about thinking less of you or having something to make fun of you. I just want to know why I can communicate with you on the same level.
So what if I'm an American? That doesn't mean my culture is 100% mainstream American culture. That doesn't mean we have the same values. People have the freedom to turn their back on the culture of their land and make their own or join another existing culture etc. And it's a good thing, I constantly point out that this or that is cultural because I'm trying to save everyone time. Why waste time, trying to convince someone of a different culture, their culture is wrong? That is like trying to convince someone their religion is wrong. Yeah, have fun wasting hours of your time for the prize of a death threat. Because arguing over something cultural or religion is a pointless waste of time that will reward you with enemies. Go to a country like Afghanistan and tell them, the way they treat their women is wrong. See what happens. I think you'd be much better off if you stay home and play PC games. It only makes sense to argue over things that have nothing to do with religion or culture.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: I constantly point out that this or that is cultural because I'm trying to save everyone time. Why waste time, trying to convince someone of a different culture, their culture is wrong? That is like trying to convince someone their religion is wrong. Yeah, have fun wasting hours of your time for the prize of a death threat. Because arguing over something cultural or religion is a pointless waste of time that will reward you with enemies.
But dialogue is the main reason to adopt a new culture, or even form a new one. If all you know is one culture you'll dismiss everything else as stupid and wrong, but through dialogue you can undestand where othe rpeople come from, why they think the way they think, and you migth even like their ideas and adopt them.

That's the reason why there's this dominant western culture thing, with the rise of the media and especially the internet people from different cultures echanges ideas and opinions en masse, while keeping some of their old identity they also imported from everyone else.

Without any sort of dialogue we'd be still living in our caves wondering why other monkeys do retarded shit like planting seeds.


And still I ask you, how different really is your culture from everyone else's? Just by speaking a certain language you already have certain values that make you similar and understood by everyone that speaks that lagnuage, so you can't be so different that you cannot accept certain opinions.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by WBGhiro
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langurmonkey: I constantly point out that this or that is cultural because I'm trying to save everyone time. Why waste time, trying to convince someone of a different culture, their culture is wrong? That is like trying to convince someone their religion is wrong. Yeah, have fun wasting hours of your time for the prize of a death threat. Because arguing over something cultural or religion is a pointless waste of time that will reward you with enemies.
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WBGhiro: But dialogue is the main reason to adopt a new culture, or even form a new one. If all you know is one culture you'll dismiss everything else as stupid and wrong, but through dialogue you can undestand where othe rpeople come from, why they think the way they think, and you migth even like their ideas and adopt them.

That's the reason why there's this dominant western culture thing, with the rise of the media and especially the internet people from different cultures echanges ideas and opinions en masse, while keeping some of their old identity they also imported from everyone else.

Without any sort of dialogue we'd be still living in our caves wondering why other monkeys do retarded shit like planting seeds.
Yeah dialogue is good but most people have a love of their culture and religion and will not give it up. And most people do dismiss other cultures and religions as stupid and wrong. If a man tells the average Western person, "Hey, I beat my wife everyday because of my culture". The average Western person will think this man's culture is stupid and wrong. How many Western people you know will adapt to it? People will only adapt to others if it doesn't go against their culture or out of fear because not adapting = death or homelessness etc. Look at all the crazy shit happening in the UK due to too many different cultures? UK is trying to get everyone to come together, hold hands and sing songs but life doesn't work that way. In life, everywhere there is strife. If you don't believe this, you refuse to believe in reality and one day, reality will kick down your door and introduce itself.
Post edited June 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey:
a few posts ago you told me to save up money and travel the world, actually my friend, I'd invte you to do much the same but not the whole world. Just the middle east, you'll see that even from a westerner's standpoint their culture is quite impressive, they have a lot of struggles, yes. Just like everyone else after all.
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langurmonkey:
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WBGhiro: a few posts ago you told me to save up money and travel the world, actually my friend, I'd invte you to do much the same but not the whole world. Just the middle east, you'll see that even from a westerner's standpoint their culture is quite impressive, they have a lot of struggles, yes. Just like everyone else after all.
I never said their culture is not impressive. I'm sure every culture in this world, has something that can be seen as nice, respectable or impressive to those of other cultures. But along with those things that can be seen as nice, respectable or impressive, there will be things, seen as despicable, disgusting, inferior etc. And if people from one culture tell people from another culture, they way they do this is disgusting, then there will be a never ending arguing which will lead to anger and hatred and maybe war...
Post edited June 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo

The Nelson guy was being really aggressive and disrespectful. I don't think AngryJoe expected this and it shocked him to a point he couldn't really defend himself. This Major Nelson guy was using drill sergeant tactics on AngryJoe.
Major Nelson is an arrogant prick. Wasn't Major Nelson on the "I dream of Genie show" back in the sixties? ;P
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langurmonkey: I never said their culture is not impressive. I'm sure every culture in this world, has something that can be seen as nice, respectable or impressive to those of other cultures. But along with those things that can be seen as nice, respectable or impressive, there will be things, seen as despicable, disgusting, inferior etc. And if people from one culture tell people from another culture, they way they do this is disgusting, then there will be a never ending arguing which will lead to anger and hatred and maybe war...
They're only disgusting or despicable if you don't understand them, and we're back to the beginning. So how about we agree to both do some travelling?
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Angry joe is a talentless, clueless and unfunny piece of shit

And people who watch him are even worse
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SpikedCereal: Angry joe is a talentless, clueless and unfunny piece of shit

And people who watch him are even worse
I enjoy his videos and believe I would value him as a friend. Life is good, enjoy yours! =)