Please note its 58Billion only at western prices it drops to less than 10 if you move it to Thirdworld prices (where they list most of the pirates as being)

Looks like GOG will have to work harder now to get additional publishers since those publishers won't bother reading past the topic title.

Piracy is still a problem, but not exaggerated like that.

BSA? Aren't these the guys whose figures have been debunked over and over? Even by the US government?

When you're data comes from BullShit Artists, beware.

This plus the third-world comment above show how pointless this data is.

No I didn't. I said organisations like the BSA do. You never bother to understand the arguments of anyone that doesn't agree with you and then you wonder why people have no respect for you or your posts.

I'm talking to you as you deserve it IMO. You bring my name up in a thread I haven't commented in to make a snyde remark about me. "Delixe said this..." "Delixe thinks that..." How can you possibly know what I think when you make it up?

1. I couldn't give a monkeys.

2. Clearly what you read and what you understand are two different things.

It's not though is it? It's actually fact. In the other thread I said that companies like SonyDAC use these figures to sell their DRM products. Where did I say I use these figures?

Well that's just a complete lie.

I must agree with Delixe in that bringing up his name was uncalled for. Also diffamation surely crosses those limits.

Anyway, common sense and a little thought easely debunks those reports about piracy. It's just some waving around with big numbers in the hope to spread fear...
It's just so superficial, I'd hope a company would at least put some deeper research in it, coming up with potential solutions/remedies instead of just making us return back in time to the dark times where great scale witch hunts have been organised.

I'm asking myself that if they're conducting these reports in the interests of the shareholders, they're basically hurting themselves in the process by not grasping the whole thing about piracy. It backfires at them if they're rowing against the flow, if they're actually taking seriously these reports that is.

You mis-understood my argument which often happens when piracy comes up. It's the nature of the beast. I never once said that piracy figures are accurate. What I said is you can get a good impression from sales figures, completed torrent downloads and games currently being played and tracked by services like Xfire and Raptr. I never said they were accurate as it still involves a lot of guesswork but they can give you an impression. It's a big difference.

Here is one of the ways this number is calculated
1. take the total number of parts sold (this means sound cards motherboards etc)
2. Subtract from this number the amount of licenses sold
3. Claim the difference is pirates and put a cash value on it

Seriously they've been caught doing this in the past they do not count part replacement etc they assume every new part bought requires a new license for all your software!

Funny, I was just having an off topic argument a few minutes ago. Should we start a flame war dedicated thread that people can be flagged to so that they won't muck up posts? I always feel like an idiot when I read a thread a few minutes after participating in an argument.