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There really is nothing to say so I thought I'd post this really entertaining video, enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2lM1decllA
Independant voice chat FTW.

It was great. :)
Some minor factual errors in there, but not too far from being spot on :P
Trolling and elitism FTW...

It's this sort of shit that makes me ashamed to be a PC gamer.
Post edited October 23, 2012 by jamyskis
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That particular video has turned into a bit of an internet meme. I take it that it is related to some form of free software that automatically more or less lip-syncs text to those two characters, usually with one being rather oblivious to how things actually are (the same way as a fanboy is), and the other one trying to explain things to the poor oblivious character (who still refuses to understand things)

Another example of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnXloqRfdA
(don't worry, the entire video is not like that, just the introduction)
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jamyskis: Trolling
How is it trolling? I get the elitism but a lot of those arguments are true, on both sides. For example, there's more freedom on the PC and console is probably easier to setup if you come from neither.
Post edited October 23, 2012 by Nirth
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AFnord: That particular video has turned into a bit of an internet meme. I take it that it is related to some form of free software that automatically more or less lip-syncs text to those two characters, usually with one being rather oblivious to how things actually are (the same way as a fanboy is), and the other one trying to explain things to the poor oblivious character (who still refuses to understand things) Another example of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnXloqRfdA (don't worry, the entire video is not like that, just the introduction)
So that's what it was, I was starting to think all these cartoons were made by the same guy, I kinda wish they were :P
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AFnord:
It is obnoxious but I agree with 100% I used to be a console gamer and I owned a lot of games that were ported from the PC. When I got a real PC I never looked back.

Also this http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/cant_copy_ps3_save_data_because_of_drm_ahhhh
Post edited October 23, 2012 by Magmarock
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jamyskis: Trolling
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Nirth: How is it trolling? I get the elitism but a lot of those argument are true, on both sides. For example, there's more freedom on the PC and console is probably easier to setup if you come from neither.
Because it's a stupid discussion that 10 years old fanboys use to inflate their e-penis. Seriously, it's just stupid. Consoles and PCs are different and will always be. Their purposes are totally different. Consoles are made to run games, PCs are not, playing games is just another function.

This is one of the topics that annoys me the most. The same BETTAR GRAFIX, DX11, MOUSE KEYBOARD RULEZ arguments again and again do get annoying.

Looking at the suggested videos almost made me puke on my screen. "7 reasons why PC gaming is better", "PC gaming sucks", oh man, the world is full of idiots.
Post edited October 23, 2012 by Neobr10
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Nirth: How is it trolling? I get the elitism but a lot of those argument are true, on both sides. For example, there's more freedom on the PC and console is probably easier to setup if you come from neither.
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Neobr10: Because it's a stupid discussion that 10 years old fanboys use to inflate their e-penis. Seriously, it's just stupid. Consoles and PCs are different and will always be. Their purposes are totally different. Consoles are made to run games, PCs are not, playing games is just another function. This is one of the topics that annoys me the most. The same BETTAR GRAFIX, DX11, MOUSE KEYBOARD RULEZ arguments again and again do get annoying.
10 years? Where I'm from there are children who were born after I was arguing about that with friends who are now able to legally buy their own liquor.
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jamyskis: Trolling
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Nirth: How is it trolling? I get the elitism but a lot of those arguments are true, on both sides. For example, there's more freedom on the PC and console is probably easier to setup if you come from neither.
One could argue that he is trolling due to the intentionally rather rude way he presents his arguments. The arguments might (almost) be entirely truthful, but he could have phrased things a lot better.


I say almost, because you don't need to change console quite as often as stated, and there is a competitive fighting game scene that is almost entirely console (and arcade) exclusive.
http://dontdrinkbeer.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/1595201-oh_look_its_this_thread_again_super.jpg
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Can you map 30 keys in your gamepad? ;P

I find keyboard superior in most games. Keyboard fails decisevely in fighting games (like Tekken or like Devil may cry) and sports games.
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True. Between console and PC control schemes, it's definitely the mouse that makes the difference. Mouse + flight stick might be an excellent combo. The benefit of the keyboard is that it is standardized, as are most keyboard controls these days. If you used a flight stick instead of a keyboard, you'd probably have to map all the controls yourself for each and every game. On the other hand, you'd have analog control over your movement as well as your view direction. It might be worth a try.
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jamyskis: Trolling and elitism FTW... It's this sort of shit that makes me ashamed to be a PC gamer.
QFT.
I prefer consoles for all the complex stuff you can do. What the Dreamcast has to offer with modding is great. Also, it has more complex games. Those JRPGs really offer some number crunching. What I like with PC gaming is the simplicity. Just clicking install and it runs. Nothing to bother with. Also, there are a lot of jump 'n' runs due to the indie surge.