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Heath played the Joker as he was written for that particular take on the Batman universe. I don't think that the Joker that you're talking about would have worked well in Nolan's version of Batman.

I don't really like ben affleck as an actor but to be honest i can not see him as batman. I just can't and that has nothing to do with his acting skills but more of HOW he acts, his own personallity and face expressions that he cannot leave behind. It's Always going to be ben affleck and ben affleck isn't a batman, or a bruce wayne ....But then again i couldn't see it with christian bale either but that turned out okay.

Excluding The Dark Knight anyway. Awesome movie, to be sure, but it was Joker's movie.

True.

I'm just being silly, because I never really liked Superman all that much.

I recently saw an article (I can't find the link) about how a good Flash movie might be the saving grace of D.C. While not a comic book fan I've always preferred the Marvel guys to DC, minus Batman, and I think that shows in the movies. Aside from Batman the DC movies just seem too campy as do the heroes in general. No one is ever going to mistake an X-Men movie for "Citizen Kane" in terms of cinematic greatness but at least those guys seemed more identifiable; they cursed they bled they smelled bad, shit some of them were positively insane. Superman has always been too "pretty" and it makes for a better cartoon than a movie. The Flash is the closest thing DC has to a Marvel hero so maybe the article has a point. Am I putting WAY TOO MUCH thought into this?

My buddy Terrence is a big comic book fan and he pointed out that DC doesn't have very good villains either which is their biggest problem. As Roger Ebert put it, "Your film is only as good as the villain" (whether or not you like him personally doesn't change how true this is) It's the reason why The Dark Knight soars above the other two films in the saga and why the other DC properties suffer. Batman's the only one with good villains, it's hard for anyone to take Lex Luthor seriously as a threat to a veritable god.

According to IMDB, I have seen Ben Affleck in one movie, Dogma. I don't remember him, but I assume he was OK.

I think it's more interesting that Superman, one of DC's two great iconic heroes, is apparently unable to carry his own movie.

I really don't have a problem with him being cast as Batman. He has already proven to be a good actor.

I almost forgot about the topic at hand.

Ben Affleck!? I hated him as Daredevil and now he's going to play freakin' Batman? Yeah go ahead and cast Nicholas Cage as Superman* while you're at it and guarantee I'll never watch your movie.

*Cage was considered for an earlier flick, not the upcoming one.

That's wrong. Facial expressions are mostly not learned, they are genetical. People across the globe smile the same way, sob the same way, are getting angry the same way.

Facial expressions are pretty much universal.

Again I will take the unpopular route and suggest that, while the Flash is certaintly a solid character, if it were up to me to make a serious DC film I would pick Aquaman. Laugh if you want but when taken seriously and not just "that guy whose only power is talking to fish" I feel that there is some very compelling drama in the Aquaman stories. Plus he has been rebooted so many times that there is much more leeway in how you tell his story.

He is the rightful ruler of Atlantis who was taken and left too die on the surface world, but rather than drowning in the open air he survived and was cared for by a lighthouse keeper. Knowing nothing of his heritage he is raised as a human until a crisis hits that draws him back. But being from two worlds means that he can never feel at home in either. Pit him against the Black Manta, introduce him to his half-brother Orm then end the movie with him losing his hand. I think that could work.

Oh, yes, Mark Hamill (as a voice actor) was the very best Joker, IMHO, and better than even Heath's Oscar winning performance. It's still difficult for me to imagine Luke Skywalker as the perfect Joker, but that's the wonder of voice acting, when it's done right, you don't even think about who the voice actually is in real life. It's also why I hate stunt casting for animated films so much. I don't want to think about how that's Brad Pitt or Owen Wilson or whoever's voice, I want to get lost in the character and only a voice-over pro can pull that off, but I digress.

Affleck just doesn't have the range necessary to play a character with a "dual" personality. I don't think his Daredevil was wooden because he believed that a blind person should be that way (and truly, when you think about blind performers, are they really all that wooden in their facial expressions? Stevie Wonder? Ray Charles? Usually it's the opposite, they overcompensate). I think that's just all he had to give. Kind of like Keanu Reeves or Kevin Costner, when a part is written for what they do well, then they can succeed, but never give them anything that will force them into a position to stretch their skills, because they'll just give you the same thing they always do. Affleck has acted well in a few movies, but those were parts well tuned to his best performance. Batman is not one of those parts.

I wonder if this information was "leaked" just to get a public response to the idea and if a negative outcry is strong enough then Affleck might suddenly find his schedule too otherwise too full to participate...

I don't know enough about Aquaman which actually makes him more intriguing to me so while I don't totally agree with your earlier post I think you might REALLY be onto something here. I'd be very into seeing an Aquaman movie, even a not so well made one. The visuals one could utilize for something like that would be totally unheard of in any current hero movie, that's for sure.