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Posted June 18, 2014
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skeletonbow: "you get further with honey than you do with guns..."
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Rakuru: We must not be playing the same games. ;)

Otherwise, agreed. Hopefully GOG Galaxy is also a success and gives GOG a little more clout with the larger publishers. It seems to me that GOG is doing some pretty interesting things lately to position itself in the market and grow and I'm excited to see how it all pans out.
Oh, in game - "KILL KILL KILL RAGE ANGER KILL KILL KILL ONLY MY GUN TRULY UNDERSTANDS ME!" :)
But in real life, carefully chosen words of diplomacy can be much more powerful than emotional discharge. :)

Indeed, I agree with you about Galaxy as well and the motivations behind it and quite excited myself. I suspect it is going to take 6-12 months after it is officially launched to be able to gauge the its success and effectiveness but I've got feel-good vibes of anticipation in the mean time. :)
Posted June 18, 2014
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wolfsrain: The comments on Beth's Facebook page are priceless. Show how much their core fans care about the Classics and where their audience is right now (consoles, teenagers, even some pirates...)
yes. it's all "WTF fallout 4 *flip table*" or people laughing that they got it free on gog.
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Rakuru: We must not be playing the same games. ;)

Otherwise, agreed. Hopefully GOG Galaxy is also a success and gives GOG a little more clout with the larger publishers. It seems to me that GOG is doing some pretty interesting things lately to position itself in the market and grow and I'm excited to see how it all pans out.
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skeletonbow: Oh, in game - "KILL KILL KILL RAGE ANGER KILL KILL KILL ONLY MY GUN TRULY UNDERSTANDS ME!" :)
LOL glad i'm not the only one
Post edited June 18, 2014 by Crewdroog
Posted June 18, 2014
Which obviously sends the wrong message. I mean, seriously, you have comments like "i've torrented them", or " just torrent them!"....If that's their mentality, i doubt that Bethesda will see any money for the Classics from them, or even for any new product. And we also have the kids: "we got them free from GOG". And they send a wrong message....
Posted June 18, 2014
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skeletonbow: Oh, in game - "KILL KILL KILL RAGE ANGER KILL KILL KILL ONLY MY GUN TRULY UNDERSTANDS ME!" :)
But in real life, carefully chosen words of diplomacy can be much more powerful than emotional discharge. :)
Ironically enough given the topic, I'm reminded of my playthrough of the first Fallout about a year ago, in which being tactful with your choice of words was indeed often much more effective than blasting everything away. Point well taken. :P

But yeah, Bethesda is a company and thus interested in money, and so a bunch of people contacting them with something like "I'm a big Fallout fan and would love to buy the games to play/give to a friend if they were available on GOG" would probably be less likely to be instantly ignored than angry GOG vs Steam diatribes.
Posted June 19, 2014
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tfishell: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/45615/

http://www.bethblog.com/2014/06/18/fallout-classics-return-to-steam/

I assume the games won't be returning to GOG because ... it's really REALLY difficult to do that. But we'll see.
That made me think...

There have not been that many games ever removed from the GOG catalogue, I'm not sure what the total is but probably 10-20 tops or thereabouts. Is anyone aware of any game ever being removed from the catalogue in the past and then re-added back at a later date? If so, what was the reason behind its removal?

Most games seem to get removed either because the game's intellectual property changes hands from one owner that is on GOG to an owner that is not on GOG and does not appear to be coming here yet. Or to owners that have a select few ancient titles here to perhaps have stuck their toe in the water years ago and never added any games since and do not seem to embrace the platform in a serious manner.

I never noticed if any changed hands and stayed here the whole time, or if any games were temporarily removed and then re-added by the new publisher at a later date though.
Posted June 19, 2014
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tfishell: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/45615/

http://www.bethblog.com/2014/06/18/fallout-classics-return-to-steam/

I assume the games won't be returning to GOG because ... it's really REALLY difficult to do that. But we'll see.
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skeletonbow: That made me think...

There have not been that many games ever removed from the GOG catalogue, I'm not sure what the total is but probably 10-20 tops or thereabouts. Is anyone aware of any game ever being removed from the catalogue in the past and then re-added back at a later date? If so, what was the reason behind its removal?

Most games seem to get removed either because the game's intellectual property changes hands from one owner that is on GOG to an owner that is not on GOG and does not appear to be coming here yet. Or to owners that have a select few ancient titles here to perhaps have stuck their toe in the water years ago and never added any games since and do not seem to embrace the platform in a serious manner.

I never noticed if any changed hands and stayed here the whole time, or if any games were temporarily removed and then re-added by the new publisher at a later date though.
Oh! Oh! I looked this up a couple of days ago. :)

List of games removed from GOG

By my quick count, it looks like 27 games have been removed in all, 8 of which were re-added at a later time. Funnily enough, ArmA and Original War were both removed for a few months in 2009 before being re-added. I guess they will be the first games to be removed twice from GOG? They also appear to have been the first games removed from GOG (and soon they'll be the last ones for a while).
Posted June 19, 2014
I'm curious to find out what they did on Steam's version. Before Bethesda acquired the rights to the old Fallout games, the Steam versions were notorious for being unplayable on modern systems without messing with community patches. GOG's version, however, works out of the box. What i heard is that even when you get Steam's Fallout to work, the world map still doesn't work properly (the timing for random encounters is not right).

I'm wondering if anything has changed of it they're still selling the "broken versions" on Steam.
Post edited June 19, 2014 by Neobr10
Posted June 19, 2014
They said last time that the reason they wouldn't return to gog was that Steam was first priority. Guess we'll have to see what their new excuse will be.
Posted June 19, 2014
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Neobr10: I'm curious to find out what they did on Steam's version. Before Bethesda acquired the rights to the old Fallout games, the Steam versions were notorious for being unplayable on modern systems without messing with community patches. GOG's version, however, works out of the box. What i heard is that even when you get Steam's Fallout to work, the world map still doesn't work properly (the timing for random encounters is not right).

I'm wondering if anything has changed of it they're still selling the "broken versions" on Steam.
From here

"It seems like all they did was add the hi res patches to the game, as you can play either way. And, they added the Cloud Sync to the Saves function. See the pinned thread for details."

the pinned thread
Posted June 19, 2014
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Neobr10: I'm curious to find out what they did on Steam's version. Before Bethesda acquired the rights to the old Fallout games, the Steam versions were notorious for being unplayable on modern systems without messing with community patches. GOG's version, however, works out of the box. What i heard is that even when you get Steam's Fallout to work, the world map still doesn't work properly (the timing for random encounters is not right).

I'm wondering if anything has changed of it they're still selling the "broken versions" on Steam.
Here.
Posted June 19, 2014
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Rakuru: Oh! Oh! I looked this up a couple of days ago. :)

List of games removed from GOG

By my quick count, it looks like 27 games have been removed in all, 8 of which were re-added at a later time. Funnily enough, ArmA and Original War were both removed for a few months in 2009 before being re-added. I guess they will be the first games to be removed twice from GOG? They also appear to have been the first games removed from GOG (and soon they'll be the last ones for a while).
Maybe that is a pattern that occurs on purpose. They remove ArmA games, then re-add them back at a later date and add new titles in the series as well. Maybe the up coming ArmA removals are being done to prepare for their return in a few months along with ArmA 3! YaY!
Posted June 19, 2014
Nice to see they updated the games. But the never ending whining and moaning from Fallout fans is getting extremely tedious! It's amazing how easy it is to make your company the most evil things since Justin Beiber... just by removing it from a website.

I doubt emailing Bethesda letters that sound like you're throwing the dummy out the pram is going to help the case. It'd be more practical for people just to shut up and see what happens.
Posted June 19, 2014
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jcoa: They said last time that the reason they wouldn't return to gog was that Steam was first priority. Guess we'll have to see what their new excuse will be.
Based on what I've read....

"GOG doesn't support Steam cloud at this time."
Posted June 19, 2014
It's weird how they added the fan made high-resolution patches (including sfall) to them, but they didn't add the unofficial patches. Fallout 2 for example is so bugged on vanilla version it's almost broken.
Posted June 19, 2014
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Crosmando: It's weird how they added the fan made high-resolution patches (including sfall) to them, but they didn't add the unofficial patches. Fallout 2 for example is so bugged on vanilla version it's almost broken.
Strange. I have the official Interplay retail CD release of the Fallout Classic Collection from a couple of years ago and even that came with unofficial bugfix and widescreen patches as optional features during installation. I guess since installation is automatic with Steam they decided to just leave them out before?
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