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HeDanny: I avoid buying PC games in a physical form as much as possible. I would like to do that for Consoles as well. That will have to wait until they are more acceptable of expandable storage. So I will be buying the Witcher 3 here, on GoG. In a few years, when its cheap, and the Aussie Tax is less offensive. Hopefully I will have played the others by then.

Why didn't I like Mirror's Edge? Well pretty much the same reasons you loved it. Take what you said, reverse it, and that was my take. I have tried typing out the reason why, but I get into wall of text and no one wants to read that, especially when it is nothing but my personal negative reaction about one specific game. I didn't mind Faith. Wouldn't mind her being given another shot in a different game.

There is still a free Flash game tie-in available for Mirror's Edge. If they had the money to tidy up the animations, and a bit more time to tweak the flow of the level layout I would consider that game more than worthy of a place here on GoG. It could be better than some of the games here already. I am still waiting for a legitimately good Parcour game. The flash Mirrors Edge could almost be it, given some spit and polish.
I used to prefer physical releases, but currently I get most of my new games from GOG, due to the convenience and, more importantly -- no DRM bullshit. Witcher 3 is an exception for me, because it will be DRM-free either way, also likely a huge file; plus they might have some cool extra stuff in a physical edition. Do you already own copies of the first two Witcher games here?

As for Mirror's Edge, how much of it did you play? Some areas were a bit frustrating, but overall I can hardly think of a single major flaw with that game, really enjoyed it. It is a bit... special, I guess, so maybe it's not everyone's cup o' tea.

I've started playing Outlast recently, and the parkour elements of that game are rather underwhelming ( so far ) -- Mirror's Edge certainly did that better.
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CharlesGrey: ...
I already have both Witcher games here. I have even downloaded the first one. I just.. keep postponing it for other games for various reasons. Its right there at the top of my "play next" list in my head. I just.. keeps getting bumped. Maybe once I have a definately-not-a-steam-box (DRM-Free box?) set up so I can play from the sofa. This last generation of consoles has pretty much ruined me as a PC gamer for straight up comfort and convenience.

I wasn't dismissing you about Mirror's Edge. I just feel that the game was so bad that assaulting someone with a wall of text containing that amount of negativity can't lead anywhere good. Especially when the person who asked is a fan. You have your own completely valid opinion. Dissing something you like, even if you are curious, just does not seem a good play.

Bit disappointed about Outcast. I didn't think that game looked all that great (looked like a fast paced clocktower done wrong. I mean, its fast paced for a start) from the trailers. The parkour looked quite interesting and is why I bought it here. If the parkour is dull.. hmm.. might have to shuffle that one down the play list a bit more. Possibly into the get around to it eventually depths.
EWJ3D? really?

(then again, I kind of enjoyed Menace 2 the Galaxy despite it being bad >_>;)
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HeDanny: I already have both Witcher games here. I have even downloaded the first one. I just.. keep postponing it for other games for various reasons. Its right there at the top of my "play next" list in my head. I just.. keeps getting bumped. Maybe once I have a definately-not-a-steam-box (DRM-Free box?) set up so I can play from the sofa. This last generation of consoles has pretty much ruined me as a PC gamer for straight up comfort and convenience.

I wasn't dismissing you about Mirror's Edge. I just feel that the game was so bad that assaulting someone with a wall of text containing that amount of negativity can't lead anywhere good. Especially when the person who asked is a fan. You have your own completely valid opinion. Dissing something you like, even if you are curious, just does not seem a good play.

Bit disappointed about Outcast. I didn't think that game looked all that great (looked like a fast paced clocktower done wrong. I mean, its fast paced for a start) from the trailers. The parkour looked quite interesting and is why I bought it here. If the parkour is dull.. hmm.. might have to shuffle that one down the play list a bit more. Possibly into the get around to it eventually depths.
The second Witcher game plays well with a gamepad, so it shouldn't be hard to figure out a convenient setup to play it on.

As for Mirror's Edge, I was just kind of surprised and confused, since people generally seem to agree that it's a good game. Of course, it's not like that means much of anything -- there's any number of games I enjoyed, even though everyone else seems to hate them, so I don't always agree with the popular opinion, either. ( I rather liked the new Alone in the Dark game, in example. No, seriously. Flaws aside, I thought they had lots of cool ideas for the game. I'm surprised the game isn't available here, if only to complete the series. Do we have any Atari games here? )

As for Outlast ( Outcast is a different game :P ), I think you have to play that one for the atmosphere, not for the gameplay. If you enjoy Horror games, then you'll probably have fun with it, just don't expect the gameplay to be innovative or memorable in any way. ( Disclaimer: I think I'm only halfway through the game, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt or two. I don't expect many gameplay surprises for the rest of the game, though. Mostly just playing to see the rest of the story and game world. )
Valdis Story seems pretty cool from what I played. Deeper RPG elements and more story than you see in most Metroidvanias.
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CharlesGrey: I rather liked the new Alone in the Dark game, in example. No, seriously. Flaws aside, I thought they had lots of cool ideas for the game. I'm surprised the game isn't available here, if only to complete the series. Do we have any Atari games here?
I enjoyed pretty much all of the most recent Alone in the Dark on XBOX360. The timed driving section was pretty mcuh totally broken and I'm convinced the only way I got through it was I eventually got very very lucky and did not drive the car straight into a glitch. I enjoyed it so much I bought it again on PS3 when that console got the "fixed" version. I think it may have been the first PS3 game I played. I also bought the PC version as well. THat was more because I found the collectors edition absurdly cheap, and I wanted the figure. I am a total sucker for figures, especially when they are absurdly cheap. Edward now stands proudly in one of my display cabinets. Yet to play that iteration of the game. I would buy it again here absolutely, despite already owning that collector's edition. WOuld make it my fourth purchase of that game, and I'd be more than happy to do it.

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CharlesGrey: As for Outlast ( Outcast is a different game :P ), I think you have to play that one for the atmosphere, not for the gameplay. If you enjoy Horror games, then you'll probably have fun with it, just don't expect the gameplay to be innovative or memorable in any way. ( Disclaimer: I think I'm only halfway through the game, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt or two. I don't expect many gameplay surprises for the rest of the game, though. Mostly just playing to see the rest of the story and game world. )
I knew you were talking about Outlast. As was I. That was a .. wierd typo.. thingy. I like me some horror, but this particular game looks more like a fast paced horror. I like my horror to be more of a slow burn. Like Silent Hill, or clock tower. This game reminds me a bit of Clock Tower, only done for adrenaline junkies. That combination just does not seem like it would work for me. At all. Bought it anyway. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
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HeDanny: I enjoyed pretty much all of the most recent Alone in the Dark on XBOX360. The timed driving section was pretty mcuh totally broken and I'm convinced the only way I got through it was I eventually got very very lucky and did not drive the car straight into a glitch. I enjoyed it so much I bought it again on PS3 when that console got the "fixed" version. I think it may have been the first PS3 game I played. I also bought the PC version as well. THat was more because I found the collectors edition absurdly cheap, and I wanted the figure. I am a total sucker for figures, especially when they are absurdly cheap. Edward now stands proudly in one of my display cabinets. Yet to play that iteration of the game. I would buy it again here absolutely, despite already owning that collector's edition. WOuld make it my fourth purchase of that game, and I'd be more than happy to do it.
Good sir, you have strange taste in video games! Hates Mirror's Edge, loves ( the new ) Alone in the Dark. Hah! But my experience with the game was actually very similar. Since everyone gave it such bad ratings, I was able to buy the collector's edition for maybe 30 bucks. I also didn't have very high expectations, so that, along with the extra content of the CE, probably enhanced my experience with the game.

The driving sequences, some of the dialogue/ voice acting, the ending and overall replay value all could have been better, but that's about my only critique. I loved all the unique ideas they had for it, such as the way the inventory worked, the weapon and item "crafting", the puzzles, the way they used physics and fire in the game. Or best of all, the way you could open locked doors in about half a dozen different ways, none of which involved searching for a key. ;)

I also loved the unique soundtrack, and ended up buying the whole thing on CD, since the CE only contained part of it. Overall, I think the game and its developers really deserved better than the bad press and low ratings they received. If I remember correctly, most of that was caused by some questionable moves by Atari.


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HeDanny: I knew you were talking about Outlast. As was I. That was a .. wierd typo.. thingy. I like me some horror, but this particular game looks more like a fast paced horror. I like my horror to be more of a slow burn. Like Silent Hill, or clock tower. This game reminds me a bit of Clock Tower, only done for adrenaline junkies. That combination just does not seem like it would work for me. At all. Bought it anyway. Benefit of the doubt and all that.
You remind me that I should perhaps give Outcast a try some time. I only remember playing a demo of it, back when it was new ( and my PC at the time couldn't really handle it well ).

Anyhow, as for Outlast, it's a bit of a mix. It does have slow sections, where you're mostly creeping around, exploring, or trying to hide from all sorts of nasty things. There's fast-paced chase sequences, as well, but they tend to be fairly short. As I mentioned, for better or worse there's not much emphasis on Mirror's Edge style parkours gameplay. I'd say it's worth a look, to see if you like it at all, especially if you've already bought it. I haven't quite made up my own opinion of the game yet; I'll have to see how the gameplay develops during the second half and whether the ending/ rest of the story is any good. But so far I'd say Horror fans should give it a look, especially if it's available at a discount.
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CharlesGrey: Good sir, you have strange taste in video games!
I know, right!?

Another game I pretty much hated (as much as you can "hate" something like a video games) was Bastion. That game was a total darling, but I.. just really struggled to get thru it. I enjoyed almost nothing about it. the "narration" was a very clever gimmick at the start, but I got over it very quickly, and it was unbearable not long after that. Another one was Dust. I adored the artistic design for that one, but that was the only thing about it I could say anything nice about.

I didn't realise there was a soundtrack for AitD. I dont think I would have bought it as the fantastic thing about the music in that game was how it dynamically changed depending on what was happening in the game. It was so smooth the way it would almost seamlessly change from unnoticeable background fluff, then all of a sudden you are tearing ass from a hoard of bad dudes and the music is thumpin to urge you along, only to simmer back down again once you got a chance to take a breath. I especially loved those "bullet time" sections where the music would go into that epic choir piece.
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HeDanny: Another game I pretty much hated (as much as you can "hate" something like a video games) was Bastion. That game was a total darling, but I.. just really struggled to get thru it. I enjoyed almost nothing about it. the "narration" was a very clever gimmick at the start, but I got over it very quickly, and it was unbearable not long after that. Another one was Dust. I adored the artistic design for that one, but that was the only thing about it I could say anything nice about.

I didn't realise there was a soundtrack for AitD. I dont think I would have bought it as the fantastic thing about the music in that game was how it dynamically changed depending on what was happening in the game. It was so smooth the way it would almost seamlessly change from unnoticeable background fluff, then all of a sudden you are tearing ass from a hoard of bad dudes and the music is thumpin to urge you along, only to simmer back down again once you got a chance to take a breath. I especially loved those "bullet time" sections where the music would go into that epic choir piece.
I'm starting to see a pattern: Apparently you hate games with exceptional art direction! All of these games seem to have great graphics and a unique style. Better stay away from The Banner Saga if you haven't played it yet, you'd probably hate it too. XD I actually have a copy of Dust here on GOG, but have yet to try it.

I don't know... Maybe the creators of those games are great artists, but not necessarily good at creating good gameplay? ( Although I personally didn't feel that way about Mirror's Edge. )

And if you own the Collector's Edition of Alone in the Dark, then you should have at least a sample CD of the soundtrack. Give it a listen, some of the best tracks from the game are on there.

The music was arguably the best part of AitD; really memorable and unique, and I'd recommend the soundtrack even to people who didn't like the game or haven't played it.
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CharlesGrey: I'm starting to see a pattern: Apparently you hate games with exceptional art direction! All of these games seem to have great graphics and a unique style. Better stay away from The Banner Saga if you haven't played it yet, you'd probably hate it too.
heh. I doubt its the Artistic design. I sort of adored DUST's art design. Dust, Widget, and the basics in the environment, as well as the unique NPCs were all quite impressive. Dust and Widget also had some pretty impressive animation as well. That jarred really badly with the enemies who were too few, over palette swapped, with bare minimum animation to the point of looking paper puppet stiff in comparison. One guy or not, the presentation was pretty, but quite badly balanced.

I didn't like the.. er.. "artistic design" of Mirror's edge, but I did not dislike it, in the same way you can't really dislike the look and design of the average fridge.

Bastion I did dislike. Much dislike. If that was the intent it would be different, but I'm pretty sure the rather uncomfortable reaction I had while playing was not what they were going for there.

I also think Psychonauts is highly over rated. So obviously I have no taste what so ever.
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HeDanny: I didn't like the.. er.. "artistic design" of Mirror's edge, but I did not dislike it, in the same way you can't really dislike the look and design of the average fridge.

Bastion I did dislike. Much dislike. If that was the intent it would be different, but I'm pretty sure the rather uncomfortable reaction I had while playing was not what they were going for there.

I also think Psychonauts is highly over rated. So obviously I have no taste what so ever.
Heh, I thought Mirror's Edge did have a rather unique look. It was ( is ) rather minimalist and clean, of course, but I think that was intentional, since it suited the game world they were trying to portray. Back then I was also impressed by how sharp and crisp everything looked ( on XBOX ). It probably still looks great in the PC version, on a modern computer; as far as I know they also added some additional features and effects to the PC version, so that's another reason why I'd like to see it here and try it out again.

Psychonauts is another game I've bought on here but have yet to try out. What about Beyond Good and Evil, did you like that one?
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CharlesGrey: [Mirror's Edge] probably still looks great in the PC version, on a modern computer; as far as I know they also added some additional features and effects to the PC version, so that's another reason why I'd like to see it here and try it out again.
So you and GoG are exclusive? You don't have Steam or Origin? Mirror's Edge has been free on both of those ecosystems. That's how I got my Mirror's Edge on Origin. I bought something else, and got Mirror's Edge for free.

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CharlesGrey: What about Beyond Good and Evil, did you like that one?
When it was new-ish I bought it on PS2 and loved it. I then found it cheap on XBOX, so I bought that one, as everything was better on xbox. Played that one and possibly enjoyed it even more. I would probably go so far as to say it just may have been at least one of my favorite games on that console. I also snagged a dirt cheap GameCube versions as well.

I have bought it here on GoG, but have not yet played it. I bought the HD remake (well, HD port, really) on XBLA the first time it went on sale. I played it for a few minutes as I was interested to see how HD it was. I played it until the first time I went to take a photo, and by that point the very dated controls and interactions really was putting a damper on my enjoyment, so it went back into the backlog. Guess more recent games that ironed out those earlier problems have ruined me, as I have no recollection of ever having issues with that from back in that games day. Of course that means nothing, most days I have problems remembering if I've had breakfast or not.

Last I read the sequel was still being made. Got to be right up there with some of the best vaporware titles by this point.

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I picked up Rogue Trooper from the weekend sale. yay. that is one to cross off the must have list. I'll edit my earlier post to reflect this, even if that would be.. wait for it.. only interesting for myself.
I recommend Ground Control 2 if you don't have it.
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HeDanny: So you and GoG are exclusive? You don't have Steam or Origin? Mirror's Edge has been free on both of those ecosystems. That's how I got my Mirror's Edge on Origin. I bought something else, and got Mirror's Edge for free.
Sort of, yeah. I tried Steam once, and that did not end well, and I can't be arsed to even consider installing Origin. I like the way GOG handle Digital Distribution, and now that I've tried them I'm spoiled and unwilling to settle for any less. :P


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CharlesGrey: What about Beyond Good and Evil, did you like that one?
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HeDanny: When it was new-ish I bought it on PS2 and loved it. I then found it cheap on XBOX, so I bought that one, as everything was better on xbox. Played that one and possibly enjoyed it even more. I would probably go so far as to say it just may have been at least one of my favorite games on that console. I also snagged a dirt cheap GameCube versions as well.
It's another of those games I've bought here but have yet to try. Never played it back on the old consoles, so I relied mostly on all the positive reviews it received here.