I hardly think this applies here. Certainly there are games out there that cater to a quite niche audience, and for those you can use the above saying, but in the game of Steam Greenlight, many of the games are simply objectively bad. And when I say "bad", I don't mean "casual", or "retro", or whatever the cool thing is to hate against nowadays, but actually quantifiably bad, in that they neither cater to a broad audience nor to the niche audience at which it was supposedly directed.

Steam has essentially become the new Wii - a pit of useless shovelware that noone wants to play on an otherwise perfectly capable system.

I vote for two kind of games:
- Ones I already played, liked and wish them as much success as possible
- Batshit crazy ones

Looking back at the games that I've voted for, I'm not really ashamed of any of them. Sure, some turned out to be terrible, but going by the limited information I had at the time of voting, I do understand why I voted for those titles.

Only ever greenlighted Kickstarter games, mostly at least.

Suppose ive voted aye/nay on few hundred greenlights or so? mostly when ive been totally bored and clicked the button by accident.

Majority of the games there seem to be such shovelware its impossible.

Valve should have -some kind of- quality control, but apparently not. "Vote this crap out of steam" -button would be nice as well.

Given how a large portion of the "Steam community" behaves, I think if there was a "vote this crap out of Steam" button they'd all be voting out each others games starting from the "most popular of the other guy's games" first.

...and that is bad how? ;)

personally i think chaos like that would be pretty much the only thing to make steam take atleast some sort of quality seriously.

more is not always better. actually quite rarely.

The only way I can view this positively is from the "I hate Steam, maybe this would suck badly enough it would make other services more popular" perspective.

Think about how large the fanbases are for some of the games you hate, and how much of that probably hates what you like. Also consider how the Steam discussions for a lot of games are awful because of how many people who clearly aren't interested in the game come in to generally be a nuisance.

Is it really a good idea to give those guys free rocks?

Do you want to learn just how glass your house (for your game collection) is?

I actually like steam and i actually dont "hate" any game enough to take it away from someone else.

Also you cannot remove bought games from anyone, even if the game itself is removed. Like Fallout games were removed from GOG - they are still not removed from your own library if youve bought them before. This is the same with Steam.

I pay minimal attention to steam forums, because frankly they dont really interested. Someone is always saying something somewhere. "duh" is all i can manage. Same with stuff like metascore - wtf does metascore have to do with my personal enjoyment of a given game?

Anyways -my- point is that Steam is drowning in utter crap. First it looked like Steam was getting filled by computer games made in paint by five years old kids. Now steam is also getting filled by mobile crap. Why in the nine hells they have to put that crap there, i dont know. I suppose someone made calculation that the more games they dump in steam, the more they will sell and thus make profit. No matter how crappy those games are.

And i dont mean the usual crappy games, i mean the true trap games. I dont like seeing steam turn into another android/apple/winphone mobile market which are just absolutely dreadful.

"More" does not automatically mean "better". Too much crap lowers the level of good games as well, just like if you put enough water to alcohol it loses its potency. very simple really - except someone at valve isnt certainly getting it.

If Steam wants to stay the top dog, at somepoint they must realize that they DO actually need to uphold some sort of level. They really do.

Trusting that people will not leave steam just because they have too much games there already just shows wrong kind of attitude.

Yeah - free rocks would be definitely okey if thats what would make steam get back their senses.

->> steam cares about money and if forexample AAAgames that actually make huge profit like COD's and whatever were to voted out from steam by some 4chan strike or whatever, it just might be the wake up call.

Unfortunately money is pretty much the only thing talking and making decisions.

I don't see how implementing a feature that would blow up just to show Valve how much of an asshole their userbase can be would make them "come to their senses". I'm pretty sure they already know how awful their userbase can be.

Yes I'm aware that a lot of genuinely crap games make it on to Steam and they probably should do something about it, but I don't see how a this hypothetical feature would lead Valve to filtering them out any more so than the current situation would. I only see it causing a lot of pain for a while for no reason.

Valve has already made it clear they don't like the current Greenlight situation either which is why Greenlight is going to be replaced eventually, the only reason they still have it is on a "lesser of the evils" basis because they don't have a "better" solution in place yet.

Keep in mind that if you vote a game on Greenlight that you are saying that you would buy it, if it is on Steam.

Naturally they'll be happy to put all the bad games in steam, if someone is voting for them. So just vote for games that you really want to have in Steam or already got somewhere else and now want to have it in Steam, too.

It is such a pitty, that many good games are not in Steam, because so much bad games get more votes.

it's different when a game has already been released elsewhere and we know it's high quality and then it appears on steam greenlight. for those games, i hope they get released as widely as possible, including steam.

Drugged-up butt sex. Save The World Collection (search this community board for that term)
The term for it is "Less-Than-Desura" or "Amateur Support-Me-Ware"

It should begin and end here:

http://www.indievania.com/
Valve actually started off all Gumboy-Tournament but got clever quickly and only took titles from established developers unless the indie offers were exceptionally well done - Greenlight has reopened the Gumboy floodgate.