Posted November 16, 2012
This was my first thought too, lol.
muttly13: Laughable. But that not withstanding... Very little of the workforce is actually union. However, since the union wont take an 8% pay cut (whatever, I wouldnt want to take it either, not the point) everyone is out of job. So in the end, the Union Bosses represent a tiny portion of the workforce but have penalized them all. Is there blame on both sides? Sure. but there was a refused offer on the table, instead nobody goes to work Monday. Happy Thanksgiving!
TwilightBard: The problem seems that they had already taken a previous pay cut, and the management gave themselves a pretty large pay raise. It's the kind of thing that muddies the water in a negotiation. They were stubborn, probably too stubborn, but you can't lay this all at the union's feet. It's probably not hardly at all the union's fault. A local teacher's union took a pay cut to avoid any layoffs in a local district 2 years ago and they got layoffs anyway. The board came back the next year and said there was a mandatory 1300 USD per month paycut (on top of what they'd taken and gotten fucked over on the previous year). They voted to strike and kids in that district very nearly didn't get schooling for several weeks.
What you don't see, when you see these dressed up anti-union slander pieces, is the long line of concessions, butt-fucks, and other shit eating the union members had to put up with for years before it gets to this point. This is while management typically gets big pats on the back from the board, votes themselves pay raises while giving the absolute minimum mandated raise to workers, and generally act like absolute, self entitled fucks.
Then the union votes to take one for the team to fuck management. Then the union won't bend, because management has cried wolf so many times to get what they want and then give themselves pay raises that the union won't believe it.
Trust me, the teamsters union is pissed at the bakers union, but the bakers have fucking had it. Given how poorly bakers tend to get paid country wide, how expensive their schooling can be, and the lack of benefits, horrible hours, etc. I can't say I blame them for saying "fuck off". The bakers union members may barely be making ends meet while the teamsters union membership may be marginally better off.


What you don't see, when you see these dressed up anti-union slander pieces, is the long line of concessions, butt-fucks, and other shit eating the union members had to put up with for years before it gets to this point. This is while management typically gets big pats on the back from the board, votes themselves pay raises while giving the absolute minimum mandated raise to workers, and generally act like absolute, self entitled fucks.
Then the union votes to take one for the team to fuck management. Then the union won't bend, because management has cried wolf so many times to get what they want and then give themselves pay raises that the union won't believe it.
Trust me, the teamsters union is pissed at the bakers union, but the bakers have fucking had it. Given how poorly bakers tend to get paid country wide, how expensive their schooling can be, and the lack of benefits, horrible hours, etc. I can't say I blame them for saying "fuck off". The bakers union members may barely be making ends meet while the teamsters union membership may be marginally better off.
Post edited November 16, 2012 by orcishgamer