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I'm trying hard to avoid this console since I already had a dslite (2 actually) but with the new Pokemon games, Animal Crossing and eventually Monster Hunter 4 (gaahhhh), I may have to pick this up eventually.
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lugum: Or are you really thinking the graphics would be that much different/better? doubt that.
The DS was capable of N64-like graphics, while the 3DS is capable of Gamecube-lke graphics.
Oh brother, total facepalm. One other thing, who smiles when they play video games? I usually just rage ;p
I guess Wii-U sales are really that bad. Shame.
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lugum: Or are you really thinking the graphics would be that much different/better? doubt that.
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kodeen: The DS was capable of N64-like graphics, while the 3DS is capable of Gamecube-lke graphics.
Fair enough, did not know that.
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lugum: Because the major future of the 3DS is the 3D part (hence the name) with that removed, it just acts like a normal ds game.
The same way all the PS3 games that don't support stereoscopic 3D "acts like normal [PS2] game[s]"?
Or are you really thinking the graphics would be that much different/better? doubt that.
Yes, I don't think the DS would be anywhere near producing similar graphics as the 3DS. Not that I think "OMG, pretty graphixz" has ever been much of an argument.
Do you seriously think that a DS would be able to play a functional port of a PS2 game?
The ds has over 6000 releases , name more then 30 really good games. It will happen with the 3DS too.
"According to Nintendo of America, there are over 1297 titles available for the Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, and Nintendo DSi as of November 22, 2012".
Anyway, any point about the DS having a bigger library than the 3DS is moot, seeing as all but a handful of them are playable on the 3DS (and 2DS for that matter).
Just as it is happening with the Wii U, stores are already pulling the consoles from the shelves.
What's happening with the Wii U is completely irrelevant. And last I checked, the 3DS has been outselling the DS at the same point in its life cycle.
Never said anything about that it should be playable, just saying a 3DS without the 3d would not make that much difference over a normal DS. Atleast no valid reason to get another $120 computer especially if you already have a DS.
Again, it seems quite clear (at least to me) that this product is geared towards the youngest customers. Those who likely don't already have a DS.
I have a DS and i would like a 3Ds in the future, but that's what i would buy, not ever a 2DS. Why skimp over $40.
Again, you're not part of the target audience of the console.
]Also a DS and a 2DS are about the same price, only the first has the big game catalogue at the moment.
See my reply further up.
Once the 2DS/3DS catalogue has grown, there will be another nintendo portable but then the 2DS/3DS price would have dropped just as it did with the DS.
So you're saying that video game consoles have cyclical life spans, where they will at some point be replaced by something newer and more powerful?
And also that they get cheaper over time?
Who knew?
Its part of the Nintendo offensive for the time after Sony and MS launches their new consoles.
Everyone is only talking about them. So what do you think the annoyed parents will read on the wishlists of
their brats? Than they go shopping and drop dead seeing the price-tags for said consoles.
The Wii U is dead even with the announced price drop of $ 50 starting 20.09.13.
They only make money with their portables. But a lower price for the 3DS with the same technic
would send them even more into the red zone. Also don't forget the warning about the 3D effect.
Still its nuts what they are doing...the big reason for buying the 3DS is 3D and now playing 3D games
without 3D ROFL
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lugum: Because the major future of the 3DS is the 3D part (hence the name) with that removed, it just acts like a normal ds game.
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Zchinque: The same way all the PS3 games that don't support stereoscopic 3D "acts like normal [PS2] game[s]"?

Or are you really thinking the graphics would be that much different/better? doubt that.
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Zchinque: Yes, I don't think the DS would be anywhere near producing similar graphics as the 3DS. Not that I think "OMG, pretty graphixz" has ever been much of an argument.
Do you seriously think that a DS would be able to play a functional port of a PS2 game?

The ds has over 6000 releases , name more then 30 really good games. It will happen with the 3DS too.
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Zchinque: "According to Nintendo of America, there are over 1297 titles available for the Nintendo DS, Nintendo DS Lite, and Nintendo DSi as of November 22, 2012".
Anyway, any point about the DS having a bigger library than the 3DS is moot, seeing as all but a handful of them are playable on the 3DS (and 2DS for that matter).

Just as it is happening with the Wii U, stores are already pulling the consoles from the shelves.
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Zchinque: What's happening with the Wii U is completely irrelevant. And last I checked, the 3DS has been outselling the DS at the same point in its life cycle.

Never said anything about that it should be playable, just saying a 3DS without the 3d would not make that much difference over a normal DS. Atleast no valid reason to get another $120 computer especially if you already have a DS.
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Zchinque: Again, it seems quite clear (at least to me) that this product is geared towards the youngest customers. Those who likely don't already have a DS.

I have a DS and i would like a 3Ds in the future, but that's what i would buy, not ever a 2DS. Why skimp over $40.
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Zchinque: Again, you're not part of the target audience of the console.

]Also a DS and a 2DS are about the same price, only the first has the big game catalogue at the moment.
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Zchinque: See my reply further up.

Once the 2DS/3DS catalogue has grown, there will be another nintendo portable but then the 2DS/3DS price would have dropped just as it did with the DS.
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Zchinque: So you're saying that video game consoles have cyclical life spans, where they will at some point be replaced by something newer and more powerful?
And also that they get cheaper over time?
Who knew?
-1297 titles are not the same as over 6000 releases what i said; http://www.advanscene.com/.
Still it doesnt't exclude the point with over a 1000 or 6000 whichever you pick that there are only a handful of good games the same will happen with the Wii-U and the 3Ds. Nintendo did not seem to have learnt from it.

- What is happening with the Wii-U is definitely not irrelevant, if publishers get bad sales on the Wii-u they might as well just drop Nintendo on the 3Ds as well. Take EA.

- Whereever says that i am not the target or who the targets are? It says "Designed for your family". So i am guessing everyone..Even the dog. Just because it's cheaper does not immediately mean it's for younger people.

"So you're saying that video game consoles have cyclical life spans, where they will at some point be replaced by something newer and more powerful?".
The 2ds is nothing newer it just downgrades the 3ds.
Like having the prototype for a Porsche, though you strip it down and make Volkwagens with it and selling it for that price.
I may actually get one of these at some point since my DS Lite recently died. I don't care for the 3d gimmick as every time I've tried a 3ds it gave me a headache. Plus it looks like the D-Pad is in a more comfortable spot than the regular 3ds, which is a concern of mine as I got hand cramps sometimes from playing a DS Lite a long time.

Will wait to see what black friday specials pop up for it.
Three things:

1.The price should be under 100$. As for now it is dilemma should I buy 3d feature for 40 bucks.
2.The design screams for GB/GBA slot in the side.
3.Nintendo's handheld which won't fit into the pocket. It sounds terrrible. :-/
So, can you use 3DS game in this, or do you have to wait until the 2ds games come out. As others have said it would be nice cheap solution for those kids that are too young and may damage a 3ds, but if you have to buy the games all over again.
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jjsimp: So, can you use 3DS game in this, or do you have to wait until the 2ds games come out. As others have said it would be nice cheap solution for those kids that are too young and may damage a 3ds, but if you have to buy the games all over again.
It's just another model of the 3DS, while the name of it is incredibly stupid you can play 3DS games on it. From the official page:
"Compatibility with all Nintendo 3DS and most Nintendo DS games."
I think you'll be good as far as 3DS titles go.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by RayRay13000
Just gimme a 3DS XL with a second circle pad, Nintendo, than I will finally thinking about getting one.
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lugum: -1297 titles are not the same as over 6000 releases what i said; http://www.advanscene.com/.
Still it doesnt't exclude the point with over a 1000 or 6000 whichever you pick that there are only a handful of good games the same will happen with the Wii-U and the 3Ds. Nintendo did not seem to have learnt from it.
I don't see what this has to do your with your original point in any case. In any case, the DS has 232 games in its library with a metacritic score of 75+, what they call "generally favorable". And before you ask, no, I don't consider Metacritic, or metacritic scores, as the end-all, be-all to what is a good game. The point is, whether either of us agree, the DS is widely regarded as having one of the best libraries of any console ever.
- Whereever says that i am not the target or who the targets are? It says "Designed for your family". So i am guessing everyone..Even the dog. Just because it's cheaper does not immediately mean it's for younger people.
Surely you understand my point. When whoever it was at Nintendo who sat down and decided to make this, which market segment do you think they expected this to have the most penetration in?
"So you're saying that video game consoles have cyclical life spans, where they will at some point be replaced by something newer and more powerful?".
The 2ds is nothing newer it just downgrades the 3ds.
Like having the prototype for a Porsche, though you strip it down and make Volkwagens with it and selling it for that price.
Strawman.
Note my use of the word 'replaced'. No one has ever said that this will replace the 3DS. It should've been quite clear from your quote that I was responding to (where you mention the 2DS/3DS being replaced down the line) that I was not talking about the 2DS replacing the 3DS.
Trying to represent that I have said so is a dishonest debate technique. Stop it.

In any case, I see no point in continuing this rather pointless back and forth, so I shall leave this discussion here.

"Compatibility with all Nintendo 3DS and most Nintendo DS games."
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RayRay13000: Not really sure about the "most DS games" line (or transfers from another 3DS), but it think you'll be good on 3DS titles.
There were a small number of games that required the GBA port, and those are the ones that won't work. Everything else will.
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lugum: Still it doesnt't exclude the point with over a 1000 or 6000 whichever you pick that there are only a handful of good games the same will happen with the Wii-U and the 3Ds. Nintendo did not seem to have learnt from it.
You know, I keep seeing you mention this in the thread. While it might just be different tastes, I decided to look through a list of DS games and pick out the ones that I played, genuinely enjoyed, and would call good. I came up with the following:

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why’d you steal our garbage?!!
Again
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island
Avalon Code
Black Sigil: Blade of the Exiled
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin
Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia
Chibi-Robo! Park Patrol
Chrono Trigger DS
Contact
Contra 4
Custom Robo Arena
The Dark Spire
Dementium: The Ward
Dementium II
Digimon World: Dawn/Dusk
Disgaea DS
Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber
Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen
Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation
Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2
Elebits: The Adventures of Kai and Zero
Elite Beat Agents
Feel The Magic: XY/XX
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift
Final Fantasy: The 4 Heroes of Light
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Fire Emblem: Shin Monshō no Nazo ~Hikari to Kage no Eiyū
Flower, Sun, and Rain
Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland
Front Mission DS
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective
Giana Sisters DS
Glory of Heracles
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure
Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Last Window: The Secret of Cape West
Inazuma Eleven
Inazuma Eleven 2
Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded
Kirby Canvas Curse
Kirby Squeak Squad
Kirby Super Star Ultra
Knights in the Nightmare
Legacy of Ys: Books I & II
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
The Legendary Starfy
Lunar Knights
Magical Starsign
Magician's Quest: Mysterious Times
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Mario Kart DS
Mega Man Zero Collection
Mega Man ZX
Mega Man ZX Advent
Metal Slug 7
Metroid Prime Hunters
Monster Rancher DS
Monster Tale
Moon
Nanashi no Geemu
New Super Mario Bros.
Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword
Okamiden
Phantasy Star Zero
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice For All
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth
Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum
Pokémon Heart Gold/Soul Silver
Pokémon Black/White
Pokémon Black 2/White 2
Pokémon Conquest
Professor Layton and the Curious Village
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future
Professor Layton and the Last Specter
Radiant Historia
Retro Game Challenge
Rhythm Heaven
SaGa 2
Sands of Destruction
Scurge: Hive
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
Soma Bringer
Solatorobo: Red the Hunter
Suikoden Tierkreis
Super Mario 64 DS
Super Princess Peach
Tales of Innocence
Time Hollow
Trace Memory
Another Code: Two Memories
WarioWare: Touched!
The World Ends With You
Yoshi's Island DS

According to wc -l on the file I put those in, that's 116 games. Now, I know overall that that's only something like 8% of the total library, but I'd say 116 games is more than enough to justify owning a platform and is definitely more than just a handful. And considering how the 3DS's library is shaping up, I'm sure it'll have just as many quality games for me in the long run.