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darkplanetar: a smartphone is cheaper
Maybe it's cheaper where you live. Here it isn't. The 3DS costs less than half the price of a proper Android/iOS smartphone.

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darkplanetar: has internet ... that means >Multiplayer Games<
Did you know that the 3DS supports Wifi connection? Amazing, uh?

It has Wifi connection ... that means >Multiplayer Games<.

Wifi connection has been available since the first DS, actually.

The lack of 3G doesn't matter, since 3G sucks for multiplayer games anyway.

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darkplanetar: also there are lots of games, also ported games, tones of applications
Again, you're not seriously trying to compare U$40 games with those U$1 casual games on Google Play and the AppStore, are you? Yeah, they're good to waste some time, but they'll never come close to DS/3DS/PSP/PSVita standards.

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darkplanetar: what else you need? has free games too...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but free games=pay to win. Most free games for iOS/Android suck. I tell that from experience, i do have some free games on my Xperia Play and i still couldn't find any that's good enough for me to keep playing. Take Frontline Commando, Dead Trigger or Contract Killer, for example. In all these 3 games you get to a point that you're pretty much forced to spend real money to buy new guns because the levels become impossible to finish with "free" stuff. Not to mention that all these games have nothing more than a few stupid fetch quests that have to be played over and over again. No story, no interesting mechanic, just do the same thing over and over again.

Sorry, but this is not what i expect from a game. I'd rather pay U$40 on a proper portable game for my 3DS than play these free titles.

But again, comparing free iOS/Android titles to well produced 3DS games is a joke.
i can see that you are a fan

but i see no reason to invest in something like that, for that money i get a tablet or smartphone and do stuff,
if i want to play i play gog games
but if you like it so much then buy it, why not...
Post edited August 30, 2013 by darkplanetar
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lugum: - What is happening with the Wii-U is definitely not irrelevant, if publishers get bad sales on the Wii-u they might as well just drop Nintendo on the 3Ds as well. Take EA.
No, no and no. The portable and console markets are completely different. Publishers want one thing: money. If games sell well on the 3DS they will produce more games for it. Period. What's happening with the Wii U is irrelevant. The fact that Microsoft allowed some of it's IPs to be released for the GBA and the DS is an example of that (Viva Pinata and Age of Empires for the DS, Banjo Kazooie and Conker for the GBA, and there are strong rumours that a Halo for the DS existed at one point). Even though Microsoft competes directly with Nintendo in the console market, they don't compete on the portable market, which is why Microsoft didn't care about Rare making some games for the GBA.

Let's be honest here, EA has never been a big supporter of Nintendo's platforms since the SNES days. Quite a few EA games at that time (like Road Rash) were Genesis exclusive. Nothing changed, EA still doesn't care that much about Nintendo.
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darkplanetar: i can see that you are a fan
No, i'm a rational human being. I'm not saying that no one should like iOS/Android games or have the same tastes as mine. I'm saying that it's absurd to compare these games to 3DS/DS/PSP/PSVita titles. The difference in quality (and price) is imense. There's no denying that a U$40 game will be deeper and have bigger production values than a U$1 game on the AppStore/GooglePlay.

You were trying to compare things that can't be compared. This is the argument i was trying to debunk. I didn't say that you are wrong for liking iOS/Android games or anything like that.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by Neobr10
it's a perfect comparison
it's what you get for what you pay

40$ game? i buy a PC game then, my friend has a wii but spends all time on pc so it was a wasted investment to begin with
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Please, tell me that image was made as joke and you're just being sarcastic.
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Neobr10: Please, tell me that image was made as joke and you're just being sarcastic.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A SHEEPLE WOULD SAY

...wait, what's the singular of sheeple? Sherson?
Post edited August 30, 2013 by Gazoinks
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darkplanetar: it's a perfect comparison
it's what you get for what you pay

40$ game? i buy a PC game then, my friend has a wii but spends all time on pc so it was a wasted investment to begin with
Another completely stupid comparison. You're comparing a portable gaming device to a PC. For fuck's sake.

Who the fuck cares about what happened to your friend and how is that relevant to the discussion?
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Gazoinks: THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A SHEEPLE WOULD SAY

...wait, what's the singular of sheeple? Sherson?
Dang, you got me, i'm a Sherson.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by Neobr10
good thing we have portable laptops/netbooks or will curse me or something
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darkplanetar: it's a perfect comparison
it's what you get for what you pay

40$ game? i buy a PC game then, my friend has a wii but spends all time on pc so it was a wasted investment to begin with
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Neobr10: Another completely stupid comparison. You're comparing a portable gaming device to a PC. For fuck's sake.

Who the fuck cares about what happened to your friend and how is that relevant to the discussion?
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Gazoinks: THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A SHEEPLE WOULD SAY

...wait, what's the singular of sheeple? Sherson?
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Neobr10: Dang, you got me, i'm a Sherson.
Well (again) atleast he has friends, doubt you have any with that attitude. That hard to make a point across without any of the swearing etc?
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lugum: People have different views (just as what they count as a good game, accept it.
I'm not discussing about opinions. What you posted was a LIE, NOT an opinion. Learn the difference. You suggested in your post at the first page that the 3DS was just a DS with a 3D screen. This is not an opinion, this is a lie. It's as simple as that.

I'm not discussing whether or not you should like the 3DS. I don't give a flying fuck about what you like or dislike. I'm just discussing about the facts.

Look at what you posted here:
The ds has over 6000 releases , name more then 30 really good games. It will happen with the 3DS too.
You were implying that the DS didn't have good games. I answered to your post saying that the DS does have many great games and posted some examples.

You were trying to make your opinion a fact, this is what i was trying to debunk in my post. Taste is subjective, this is NOT what i'm discussing about. Whether you like these games or not doesn't matter. If you read my posts carefully instead of resorting to personal attacks you would notice that i never questioned your tastes. You might not like any of the games of the DS library, but this is your opinion and yours only. There are MANY great games on the DS library, and you can't deny it, whether or not you enjoy them is a different issue.

You implied that the DS didn't have more than 30 good games when you challenged someone to "name more then 30 really good games". The DS does have more good games than that. There are more than 30 85+ rated titles on Metacritic alone. No, i don't care about Metacritic, but it's the most objective parameter we can come up with to discuss about game's quality.

Read things carefully before posting crap. I was not discussing about your opinion.
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lugum: Well (again) atleast he has friends, doubt you have any with that attitude. That hard to make a point across without any of the swearing etc?
It's pretty clear that you can't discuss anything rationally without resorting to ad hominem arguments. Your attempts at insulting me are pretty stupid and moronic, actually. Nice try, but i'm not falling for your bait.

You're acting like a 10 year old boy. What's next, mom jokes?
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lugum: Seems you wanting the same useless discussion it went into with another forum member, but i gonna refrain from it especially if you act like an ass with it.
Oh wait, let me see if i got it right: you're the one who comes up with personal attacks and i'm the one acting like an ass? Yep, makes sense.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by Neobr10
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lugum: It's pretty clear that you can't discuss anything rationally without resorting to ad hominem arguments. Your attempts at insulting me are pretty stupid and moronic, actually. Nice try, but i'm not falling for your bait.

You're acting like a 10 year old boy. What's next, mom jokes?
Hahaha, such a comment is coming from you. Then that must make you 6? I just told you to can it with the attitude nothing else. You say to be rational yet from all the messages in this thread it really shows the opposite.
I am not going to argue with you because a) You are not being any rational yourself, i am open to any civil discussion but this got way past that point, b) I had a crap day and I just don't want to waste my time on the likes of you. c) Someone else already made the same points across why go over it again.
With all that it still doesnt rule out the fact that you could have made a point without the swearing and attitude.
And with that it was my last reaction to you. Rant some more if you want, i don't care.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by lugum
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lugum: You say to be rational yet from all the messages in this thread it really shows the opposite.
I've posted solid arguments and you didn't even try to counter them, you just went straight into personal attack mode for some reason. Just read all the posts and judge for yourself.
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lugum: You say to be rational yet from all the messages in this thread it really shows the opposite.
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Neobr10: I've posted solid arguments and you didn't even try to counter them, you just went straight into personal attack mode for some reason. Just read all the posts and judge for yourself.
Who posted fuck in almost every post and what not, plus who said to darkplanetar "who fucking cares about what happened to his friend, for fucking sake". Your words..
Then and only then i said he had atleast friends, after many many ranting posts from you. Why would i feel the need to counter anything with someone having to say that word in every post. Then you are not taking yourself seriously, so why should i?
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lugum: Who posted fuck in almost every post and what not, plus who said to darkplanetar "who fucking cares about what happened to his friend, for fucking sake". Your words..
Then and only then i said he had atleast friends, after many many ranting posts from you. Why would i feel the need to counter anything with someone having to say that word in every post. Then you are not taking yourself seriously, so why should i?
Oh wait, so just because i said "fuck" in a few posts my arguments are invalid, is that it? Take that word out then and my arguments remain valid. Do it in the example you quoted: "who cares about what happened to his friend" is still valid.

Ranting posts? Please show me any rant post from me in this thread. All my posts were funded on rational arguments, despite the F word every now and then.

You're trying to disqualify my posts because you ran out of arguments, that's very dishonest.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by Neobr10
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lugum: Who posted fuck in almost every post and what not, plus who said to darkplanetar "who fucking cares about what happened to his friend, for fucking sake". Your words..
Then and only then i said he had atleast friends, after many many ranting posts from you. Why would i feel the need to counter anything with someone having to say that word in every post. Then you are not taking yourself seriously, so why should i?
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Neobr10: Oh wait, so just because i said "fuck" in a few posts my arguments are invalid, is that it? Take that word out then and my arguments remain valid. Do it in the example you quoted: "who cares about what happened to his friend" is still valid.

Ranting posts? Please show me any rant post from me in this thread. All my posts were funded on rational arguments, despite the F word every now and then.

You're trying to disqualify my posts because you ran out of arguments, that's very dishonest.
I care about what happened to his friend thus that makes it invalid.
I told you my reasons why i am not going further into it, if your logic is then that your arguments still remain valid, then so be it.
What do you want to hear from me? you are absolutely so right, i am just an idiot for every saying it? (i even granted that i slightly underestimated the 3ds's power)?I'll go with whatever end it.

Call it whatever you want, i just am not in the mood for endless arguements.
Post edited August 30, 2013 by lugum