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This just in: Nutella is likely half fat you unattentive consumers, read the damn label. It's practically the same as peanut butter, oils and 'butter' and all.

I dunno, it's just silly to have thought this was really that much better than eating the nuts by themselves.

Peanut butter is a good food. It's just made bad by modern manufacture.

Well this is just friggin' great. Last week, just last durn week, as we were walking through the grocery store I swung back around after picking out my jar of peanut butter and told my wife, "I've always been curious about this stuff", and grabbed our very first jar of Nutella.

And then this article comes along.

Haven't even opened it yet and now I have this feeling that it will subconsciously alter my impression of the stuff. OTOH, I do enjoy rich and sweet guilty pleasures so, like all good things in life, moderation is likely the key. Maybe I'll slather some atop a graham cracker and, with the browser open to the article, eat it with my middle finger raised and enjoy every sweet bite.

News Flash: just about anything in the world can kill you! And no, you don't deserve money for it!

I'm sorry but this is something I simply cannot agree with. Of all the disciplines of knowledge, philosophy is by far the most liberating and humbling. You don't have people telling you what the world is like back here - you get to see concepts uprooted, taken apart, analyzed in their coherency, the reliability of the premises they rely on...

Ironically - TheJoe is doing precisely what you're accusing me of. He barges in, says his thing and disappears. I'm one of the people who jump at the opportunity and proceed to make fun of him. There's hardly more anyone can do, as he doesn't present arguments - he simply writes something like "GOG.com" and that's it.

People either make fun of him or ignore him. His comments DISRUPT the flow of discussion and - as far as I've noticed - people have been disagreeing with what he's incessantly trying to convey. I've been digging through threads and trying to assemble something more convincing but - do your own damn research. We've offtopic'd this thread enough already.

As for Nutella - my dietary experiences with it have been disappointing as well - it failed to bring my BMI up into the norm ;P. Maybe I wasn't eating enough...

Yours to. They are a global threat. Recently they've taken international, their campaign to use copyright laws to push farmers off their land. Claiming farmers crops have Monsanto copyrighted genes.

And it's not just corn. It's nearly all of the commodity crops.

I don't think they sell Nutella where I live. I've never seen it in stores, nor seen anyone eat it.

I thought they were beginning to lose in Canada. There was a recent case that determined a field environmentally infected with Monsanto crops is not patent infringement.

Check coop stores, they should have a tiny jar for the modest sum of $10.

I won't go as far and say this is a corporate spin on an important legal case (like what McDonalds did with the Hot Coffee verdict). But the judgement is correct (also, as always in the US, the damages look redicoulus).

The important fact, that the article just mentions on the sideline, is that Nutella is marketed as a healthy food suitable for kids. I don't know the US ads, but Ferrero is notoriusly using a "it's healthy" message for all of their candies here in Germany. And those are also targeted at children. That isn't correct and only borderline legal.

Ferrero is now using articles, and sheep like us, to convey the "doh, of course Nutella isn't healthy" message to paint the woman who did the case as an idiot. While in fact, that woman was brave enough to go to the courts and make a change. This hopefully leads to marketing less effective in influencing simple minded people like kids.

This is one of the few important consumer protection cases that actually worked in the US. And now everybody is dancing to ferreros fiddle in marking the woman as stupid and creedy.

We don't know how much Nutella she was giving her kid. Maybe four slices of bread to breakfast. That certainly doesn't look like much, but it is way to much for a kid. Damages in the US are often "punative damages", therefore the point of the high sum wasn't to make the woman rich, but make Ferrero hurt. And this is peanuts considering what Ferrero is costing the US healthcare system.

Did you know there is a cereal made of cookies in the US? "It's part of a balanced breakfast." Did you know there's a cereal made of marshmallows in the US? "It's part of a balanced breakfast."


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To clarify, I'm not discrediting your claims. I'm attempting to illustrate the environment the naysayers are conditioned to accept.

And people jumping at the woman who made this case are directly working into the hands of those corporations, because with so much scrutiny, others won't come forward as easily.

But hey, it's not like the US has an obesity problem or anything...

You know, now that I think about it, the thing I find unsatisfying is that this case doesn't set a precedent. A chocolate-hazel nut spread is unhealthy but cookies and marshmallows and red dye #5 are still considered cereal.