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StingingVelvet: I never play online but I still signed up for Silver to get some DLC. It surprises me that many people own one and never got a patch or DLC ever.
I'm surprised people are willing to pay monthly fees for something as basic and fundemental as product support.
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StingingVelvet: Which is fine I guess, but it seems rather limited.
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Elenarie: Perhaps those people represent their target zone?

Which brings me to, why do people rage so much that a particular thing does not suit them? It is obviously that they are not in the target zone, thus they should move on to find something else that they might like.
When you have A, B, C, D, ... , X, Y, Z to choose from, complaining that one of them doesn't suit you seems pretty silly.
When you have A, B, and C to choose from, A's gone for some other target market, B's saying they don't want you either, and C's just humming the Ducktales theme in a dark room and you don't really know what its deal is, complaining about the B not suiting you starts to seem kind of reasonable.
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Cormoran: Grab a raincoat and umbrella, people. Angry Joes second xbone rant has him so angry he accidentally spits on the screen!
I haven't watched the video yet but are you sure you didn't mean the camera?
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Elenarie: That guy needs to grow up.
Angry Joe just speaks whatever his feelings are, there is nothing wrong with that.

You can really tell when MS has fucked it up when even Polygon, a gaming news site that got funded with MS money, starts writing articles like this: http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy
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Cormoran: Grab a raincoat and umbrella, people. Angry Joes second xbone rant has him so angry he accidentally spits on the screen!
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F4LL0UT: I haven't watched the video yet but are you sure you didn't mean the camera?
His camera yes, but it ends up visible on your screen. The sentence is constructed from the point of the viewer.
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Elenarie: Which brings me to, why do people rage so much that a particular thing does not suit them? It is obviously that they are not in the target zone, thus they should move on to find something else that they might like.
Just like me then! :) I have certainly commented on this, but not raged. I'm just pretty confirmed I will not buy XBone, so I guess I'm "moving on".

But I am watching with interest how this develops, as this is basically the second round of "does the gaming public embrace DRM?". The comparisons to PC gaming seem quite frequent, Steam is taken as an example all the time. The "Cynical Brit" even started pondering how great it would be to be able to transfer Steam games from one account to another, even once. As if it had never occurred to him before that such feature could exist in Steam. :D

Then again, many people might be afraid this console-DRM becomes the norm also outside of XBone. As has been suggested, maybe Sony _has to_ implement something similar unless they want to see EA/Ubisoft/Activision declare they will not make PS4 games, at least initially.

So it might be they feel there is nothing to "move on" to, and that makes them angry. We should advertise GOG to these disgruntled people! :)
Post edited June 07, 2013 by timppu
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StingingVelvet: I never play online but I still signed up for Silver to get some DLC. It surprises me that many people own one and never got a patch or DLC ever.
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keeveek: I'm surprised people are willing to pay monthly fees for something as basic and fundemental as product support.
Me too. And people say consoles are cheaper than gaming on PC. Not in the long run they aren't.
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Elenarie: That guy needs to grow up.
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OmegaX: Angry Joe just speaks whatever his feelings are, there is nothing wrong with that.

You can really tell when MS has fucked it up when even Polygon, a gaming news site that got funded with MS money, starts writing articles like this: http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/4406170/xbox-one-internet-trade-policy
I really like Angry Joe because he says what his feelings are on the subject and 90% of the time I'm thinking along the same lines as he is. I wasn't going to get an Xbox One before but now that all this information is out about Prism I sure as shit am not going to be getting one ever even if Microsoft changes it to something similar to the 360.

Thanks for posting the article!
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StingingVelvet: I never play online but I still signed up for Silver to get some DLC. It surprises me that many people own one and never got a patch or DLC ever.
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keeveek: I'm surprised people are willing to pay monthly fees for something as basic and fundemental as product support.
Silver is free, dude.
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StingingVelvet: Silver is free, dude.
I'm an ignorant.

(although I wouldn't pay for multiplayer in games anyway)
Post edited June 07, 2013 by keeveek
xbox and ps4 are going to be shit and people will be heart broken on both. Microsoft is more open and is directing his business to big companies like EA and Sony is directing his market to poor people. But both consoles will have same features.
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Adzeth: ...
But the ones you mentioned are only 3 out of the dozens and dozens platforms for gaming these days. You have different desktop / notebook platforms, different web platforms, different console platforms, different smartphone platforms... so much stuff to choose from.
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timppu: maybe Sony _has to_ implement something similar
They have to. Not because of big publishers, but because of themselves. There is no way to enable the stream-the-game-you-bought-to-your-console-before-you're-even-home stuff without having a system to ID the users and regulate the whole process.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Elenarie
I never believed nor really cared about all the crazy conspiracy/cataclysmic theories about the next xbox....but it's kind of sad to see that in the end most of the worst of them where true.

I am not really surprised, just another step toward the fully streamed gaming future.
Post edited June 07, 2013 by Gersen
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keeveek: I'm surprised people are willing to pay monthly fees for something as basic and fundemental as product support.
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scampywiak: Me too. And people say consoles are cheaper than gaming on PC. Not in the long run they aren't.
I game on consoles and have never once paid for Xbox Live...
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Adzeth: ...
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Elenarie: But the ones you mentioned are only 3 out of the dozens and dozens platforms for gaming these days. You have different desktop / notebook platforms, different web platforms, different console platforms, different smartphone platforms... so much stuff to choose from.
..and there are many employment possibilities for IT specialists. They can work as cleaners, store clerks, or maybe even as bus drivers. The possibilities are limitless. The problem is that people want something so specific that a little variance from it ruins the whole platform for them. There really aren't that many possibilities for people who want a new home console.