PS4 looks more viable to me.

Have you ever seen the horrible, POS of boxes Cable and Satellite companies rent? Yeah, you can watch TV already, the experience merely sucks total ass. How much XBox One will improve it remains to be seen, but having a built in PVR isn't a bad start.
Well, all hope may or may not be lost, I guess I'll stay tuned, this doesn't sound that grand. I regularly swap games with my buddies and I see no need to involve a middle man in that...
Dude, you are splitting metaphorical hairs that don't matter one fucking iota. You realize that every console in history has software running it, right? People have a right to their god damned purchases.

Except none of them required near constant permission from the manufacturer just to operate. I haven't a fucking clue where you've been living for the past 50 years, some kind of horrific dystopian parallel dimension?

Why Kaz Hari is not tweeting the fact that the PS4 can be played offline right out of the box is beyond me.

That link may not be very accurate. Wired hasn't corrected their article yet, even after the XboxSupport told them to. And also keep in mind, Wired interviewed the VP of Microsoft, which is pretty damn close to getting it straight from the source.

I see the biggest loss for a 'typical' Xbox user being loaning games. People swap/lend games they have finished/are bored with all the time. This is now dead.

Personally I don't get morally outraged by this, but perhaps we need to be more upfront about the fact that you are licensing the game not purchasing it.

Overall I think this will do OK, but both it and the PS4 will be hit hugely by Android devices, Steam devices, PCs and such. Furthermore it will be really struggle to replace the 360 and PS3 which both still work very well and play games however you like. I can't see developers leaving the 360/PS3 any time soon, so until you can't get games, why upgrade?

I can't remember the last time a big hardware/gaming reveal had such a poor reception across the board, based on what I've seen at various websites.

The PS3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

There you go Sony... MicroSoft has just handed you victory in the Next Gen console war

I have one. It just lets me watch cable. I used to think PVR would be nice to have but it was never that important to me. Whatever the Xbox One does with tv, I guess it must be one of those things you must have experienced to appreciate it. I haven't, so I guess I just won't get it.

Microsoft shareholders are running the show, the new xbawks should of had a giant head-start to the PS4 but Microsoft is obviously running scared from their shareholders who have likely never played a video game in their lives yet have paranoid delusions about piracy. It's the only way to explain how these alienated and out-of-touch decisions got made. It also probably has something to do with the fact that Ballmer runs Microsoft like a tyrant and tries to bully and manhandle the industry and squeeze as much money as possible from the market, no matter how much it alienates customers and generates discontent.

And yet, the new xbawks will probably still be a moderate success because they can always rely on dumb American college frat boys to buy the latest bro shooter game.

haha this is better than the live reveal i watched

Loved it shows what the xbox 1 is all about . TV

The activation is to block used games, not piracy. Some publishers are very jealous of imagined losses from used sales and so have previously attempted to harm used access by tying some features to a single-use Online Pass code (so used players have to pay for another pass to access those features). The Xbox One apparently makes that sort of limitation apply to all games.