I'm no modern day console gamer, but is it safe to say this will fail horribly against the PS4? I hope nothing bad happens to PC gaming, the PC gaming drought in 2007-2008 is pretty horrible for me.

Looks like I won't be buying the next Xbox...

24 hours is paltry, and more like building in an escape door for getting pegged as being always on-line. They don't want to be seen as taking a stand on either side so they are going to pretend they are everything, and nothing all at once. If they go with the "window of grace" method I would think it needs to be more like 72-hours min, though I feel like it's playing both sides.

Did someone ask the question as to what happens if it has been 24 hours or a week since I was last on, and that's when I decide to start playing during my outage? Is my time up or do I get 24 hours after a failed connection?

What happens when 10 year olds get to be 30-35 and feels like take taking a trip down memory lane(Happened to me) and there are no Xbox One servers? Do we all end up tossing millions of perfectly functioning Xboxes into the bin?

Yeah, I was unlikely to buy one even without this really. AAA blockbuster games hold little interest for me, the PC caters to most of my desires with indie games and I'll probably pick up a Wii U if/when there are some worthwhile games and the price has come down.

Whatever happens, you are only buying the hardware parts. Everything else included with the console (software / os / whatever), is being licensed to you, as a buyer, for the rest of the lifecycle of the console. Thus, if servers go down tomorrow, you'd get to keep the thing you bought, the actual hardware, but you won't access the software that you licensed to have access to during its lifecycle.

Licensing 101.

Oh I know the feeling. I'm not really interested in a lot of what's coming out for the next gen stuff....ok that Capcom trailer with the Knight got my attention, but I can wait til it gets it's 'Super Special Ultimate Edition'.

I don't think it will fail horribly, but I think MS has hurt its standing with the "core gamer" crowd at this point, where Sony has done a lot to raise their standing. I think this cycle is Sony's to lose now. As long as they don't do anything monumentally stupid, they will come out on top, but it won't be a landslide victory.

Frankly, the fact that both Sony and MS went with standard PC architecture for their respective systems might turn out to be a boon for PC gaming. Now when a game is ported, it won't be the usual "crappy console port" with substandard graphics and such, it will be more or less a 1:1 conversion that looks and plays great on all systems. In theory, at least.

That is also true for every single electronic device containing a piece of programming code in it... have you been living in a cave for the last 50 years?


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To the stupid rumours and crap that has been said the last few months, suck it:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

I'll stick with PC...where I can 'own' the games I buy.

2007 saw - The Witcher - NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer - Two Worlds - Mass Effect - Eschalon: Book 1

2008 saw - Fallout 3 - Avernum 5 - Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir - Sacred 2: Fallen Angel - Fable 2

Not all too bad

My history involves the NES. If I have an NES and a cart I can still play. I don't have to re-appeal to some authority for permission decades later. Whatever legal business may be going on in the soup, consoles have adequately shielded me from artificial console death. If that has now changed, and MS made the choice to build a software based heart-attack into their machine then that is new. It's somewhat disrespectful to my purchased hardware, wildly disrespectful to the planet, and not something I am required to like just because laws haven't changed. The spirit of how things work is changing, and I am allowed to comment on that, as you are allowed to dismiss me as you like.

When the future comes maybe there is some swell update they could push out to keep the wheels turning, but there is no knowing.

But what does the Xbox add to someone who already has cable, and probably netflix on 3 other devices?

Well actually Fallout 3 is extremely bad for me :D Yeah I'm one of those Fallout 1 & 2 traditionalists. I remember running out of games to play during those years, I actually had no backlog, I went on forums where I spent most of my time arguing with idiots who keep saying PC gaming is dying, cursing publishers who made games console exclusive on forums, eying the then upcoming Dragon Age Origins as my one true gaming saviour only for EA to delay it by 6 months to coincide with the console releases. And then I went back to playing WoW, lol.

Kings Bounty, Telltale's Sam and Max, Ceville came out then it was a incredible breath of fresh air then. I bought all boxed at launch. Well actually one of my favourites X3TC came out then, but I was an idiot and didn't play the series then.

The technical strengths of both the Xbox One (I wish they picked a different name) and the PS4 seem pretty equivalent so they will produce solid results.

Regardless of what gets released quickly after launch, I'll be waiting at least 3 years before buying the Xbox One or the PS4. Consoles keep getting more and more expensive and I'm at an age of heavy budget concerns. For some reason, I seem less interested in video games than last year and the year before but I'll probably get back into it soon enough.