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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
Hey YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
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Crassmaster: Sweet mercy, these girls and stuff might stop us from shooting fireballs at people! Noes!
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Bavarian: Quick, let's get penis enlargement before it's too late!

Scary thread.
Agh hahahahaha you are Funny Bavarian! +1 Dude
Post edited May 29, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
She's trying to make the tropes known so that people would realize their existence and discuss about them using common terminology. She isn't against men, and she isn't saying that the tropes shouldn't exist.
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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
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Adzeth: She's trying to make the tropes known so that people would realize their existence and discuss about them using common terminology. She isn't against men, and she isn't saying that the tropes shouldn't exist.
I watched it she sounded more Vindictive towards men having fun with our style of video games (that are not real) then anything else.

Funny that she didn't Mention Tomb Raider anywhere.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: I watched it she sounded more Vindictive towards men having fun with our style of video games (that are not real) then anything else.
No, she really didn't.
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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
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Adzeth: She's trying to make the tropes known so that people would realize their existence and discuss about them using common terminology. She isn't against men, and she isn't saying that the tropes shouldn't exist.
But the thing with these "tropes" is that it goes over most people's head's anyway. I'd reckon it has zero affect on most people. I love Kings Quest VI and Monkey Island they couldn't be more opposite. I don't analyse the stuff so the tropes end up not mattering.
Wow. This discussion took somewhat of a turn....
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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
I think the point of the videos is just to discuss the role of female characters in video games.

I HOPE that next video she will talk about Kings Quest VI. It looks like she will be talking about Elaine Marley from Monkey Island (possibly in a positive way?)
Post edited May 29, 2013 by htown1980
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htown1980: Wow. This discussion took somewhat of a turn....
Yeah, it sure did XD Maybe bringing a video about a feminist's view on gaming wasn't the safest topic. But, regardless of what I or others think, thanks for posting it. I saw the first one a few months ago, and I found this one equally interesting :)
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langurmonkey: If you attack the stories, you aren't attacking the creators of the stories?
I don't think so, I can disagree with an opinion or a joke someone tells or a story someone writes, without attacking that person.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Saying that Our gaming habits are too Misogynistic. It's Like No sorry that's not allowed we (women) said so because it might be Fun. It's like we can't have any fun anymore because Women don't want us to.
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Crassmaster: How are you getting that from that video? Seriously, you are massively over-reacting and reading waaayyyyyy beyond what is actually being said.
I'm guessing while he was writing that, he was thinking of other crazy feminists.
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htown1980: Wow. This discussion took somewhat of a turn....
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JohnWalrus: Yeah, it sure did XD Maybe bringing a video about a feminist's view on gaming wasn't the safest topic. But, regardless of what I or others think, thanks for posting it. I saw the first one a few months ago, and I found this one equally interesting :)
Maybe it's good for everyone to get it out of their systems.... :)
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Alfie3000: I don't get it. What's the point of these videos?

Haven't seen it yet, I watched the last one, but does she mention King's Quest VI? You know that one designed by Roberta Williams (Woman) and written by Jane Jensen (Woman), because it features that damsel in distress trope too.
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Adzeth: She's trying to make the tropes known so that people would realize their existence and discuss about them using common terminology. She isn't against men, and she isn't saying that the tropes shouldn't exist.
She isn't against men in the video but she is doing a lot more than making the tropes known.
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

On a more serious note, I tend to ignore things like these, because I find Anita's credibility shaky at best. I DO, however, think that lazy writers need to put more thought into their plotlines, so without the whole "ERMERGERD! MISERGERNY!" thing to attract viewers, this would simply be an opinion piece.

Either way, I think there's evidence to prove that there's both plenty of love and hate in our favorite vidyas, but I also think the Feminist angle has been beaten to death, then turned into glue.

Sex sells, and lazy marketers know that.

HEY...WAIT...SOMEONE NEEDS TO GIVE ME MONEY TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPLOITATION OF MEN WHO CAN'T CONTROL THEIR NEED TO THROW MONEY TOWARDS THINGS ADVERTISED BY ATTRACTIVE WIMMENZ!!!

^^^ This part was a joke. :P
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htown1980: Are you able refer me to a part of the video where she accuses the makers of the games of "being against women"?
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langurmonkey: Ok, I will go through the video again and find the parts for you.
I'm surprised, Langur, that you watched the video twice and still didn't catch that she isn't attacking devs as being maliciously anti-women. I also find it troubling that when somebody goes to the effort of researching evidence to support a claim about discrimination existant in society against them, you casually dismiss them as a "crazy feminist".

0:45 "...but please keep in mind that it's both possible, and even necessary, to simultaneously enjoy a piece of media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects."

19:55 "Despite these troubling implications, game creators aren't necessarily all sitting around, twirling their nefarious looking mustaches while consciously trying to figure out how to best misrepresent women as part of some grand conspiracy. Most probably just haven't given much thought to the underlying messages their games are sending..."

She also goes on to mention the very real problem of domestic violence. While I don't think she made a strong enough case connecting video female subjugation with real-world oppression of women, I think it ludicrous to suggest that she's making "mountains out of molehills" as one poster said, and that there isn't anything wrong going on at all.

IF women were suffering in reality and IF media portrayals perpetually glorifying the victimization and dominance of women were augmenting it, how SHOULD people go about combatting that? Should they, perhaps, I dunno, try to gather evidence to support their assertions, as she has done? Or is that just whining? Should they present their case in a calm and reasoned manner, as she has done? Or is that just "crazy feminism"? Should she ask for financial support to better present her claim? Or is she just scamming?

I find some of the dismissive attitudes people have posted here to be rather self-centered. Here's a woman complaining about an issue that affects women, but since men don't suffer from it, it apparently either doesn't exist, isn't important, or she's just a whiny, lying, bitch.

I'm curious to know how the posters here feel a person SHOULD go about making a valid claim against the problem of chainmail bikini syndrome or DiD in a way that you would find legitimate. Or is that impossible, and you feel that nothing would convince you there's a problem with how women are portrayed?
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SpikedCereal: Oh look, another Shitty and Worthless video from this batshit insane Cunt who has little to no idea what she's talking about

This was Totally worth the 150K guys, really

Ratings and Comments are disabled, take a wild guess why
I was wondering about the videos "worth" myself.

The first video got 1.27 million views and was 23 minutes long. It's probably unlikely all her videos will get that many views but who knows at this stage?

This video is 25 minutes. She said she is going to make 12 videos, but she is making 3 videos on the first topic alone. If she continues that, she will make 36 videos.

Let's assume she only makes 12 videos (maybe that is low), each video gets 1 million views (maybe that is high) and is 20 minutes long (probably a bit low).

If my maths is right (and its probably not) that would mean, each minute that each person watched cost 0.066 cents per minute (or about 1.3 cents per person per video).

That seems like ok value to me...
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Alfie3000: But the thing with these "tropes" is that it goes over most people's head's anyway. I'd reckon it has zero affect on most people. I love Kings Quest VI and Monkey Island they couldn't be more opposite. I don't analyse the stuff so the tropes end up not mattering.
The "going over people's heads" part is well demonstrated by now :)
I'm enjoying her videos, and I care about the stuff she's talking about. There are audiences and target groups for things. I don't like or play flight simulators, but won't go saying that they don't matter. Without all the people who didn't get it barking about 'em, the audience would be limited to the people who are interested in it.

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langurmonkey: She isn't against men in the video but she is doing a lot more than making the tropes known.
Yes, she's talking about the tropes.