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langurmonkey: Again you are insulting me...I can see you want to end this... LOL She is a crazy feminist. I believe that 100%. And I backed it up. I didn't just say it and not back it up. And there is something wrong with you if you think saying "crazy feminist" reveals sexist beliefs. Because I'm not saying all feminists are crazy. You are again twisting my words into something else. You are hopeless and I have no desire to get along with people like you. Please go away.
Don't worry. I believe 100% in what I said and have backed it up. It's cool.
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HijacK: Silly? Why do you think I'm silly?

And if it doesn't warrant a proper reply , why did you even bother to write that?
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amok: Because I wondered if it was silly on purpose.

To answer your question why it is silly - Who says "Women are the beautiful sex"? I sure know that my partner do not.
Most artists that do carving , painting or poetry. And this is not something common people say. But hey! I guess you never bothered with what humans call art. I bet you didn't bother with science either.
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amok: Because I wondered if it was silly on purpose.

To answer your question why it is silly - Who says "Women are the beautiful sex"? I sure know that my partner do not.
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HijacK: Most artists that do carving , painting or poetry. And this is not something common people say. But hey! I guess you never bothered with what humans call art. I bet you didn't bother with science either.
Darn, I guess I missed them looking at all those painting and sculptures of men. But hey, they are not art.

Maybe there is also something historical about which gender it was seen OK to be come a freethinking Artist in those times, and which gender mostly commissioned the pieces of art? But what do I know, I do not know science (good logic there, was it meant to be insulting? It was funny and a very good example of an Ad Hominem, it made me laugh.)
Maybe it's a cultural thing? We call women in Poland the beautiful sex, it's a very common saying.
Is this thread going off-topic a good thing or a bad thing?
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langurmonkey: *snip*
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Adzeth: Okay, so, I'm having a really hard time taking you seriously. Are you being serious? :D
In my opinion, some people were out of line with langurmonkey. I don't think he's over reacting (however, in his place I wouldn't have ask for excuses, because it's too often firestarter-ish )
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langurmonkey: I edited my previous post to you but I will just copy and paste the new stuff here. I have no personal experience with such people so I could be wrong. What I'm saying is based on what I've seen on TV(shows like Gangland) and what is written on some websites. Sure, some people will lose respect for you if you push back against someone weaker. I am not one of those people. Because I don't think being weaker than someone, gives you a free pass to attack people. I'm no Kung Fu master so I'm a lot weaker than such a person. If I go up to such a person, insult them for no reason, I fully expect to get my ass kicked. And I deserved it. And I would lose a lot of respect for the Kung Fu master if he just stood there and took my abuse. And based on what I've seen in TV shows about 1%ers, they find it okay to attack weaker people too if those people show them disrespect. They basically have a no disrespect policy. There is a reason, people see them as bad guys, not good guys. Hells Angels has 1%ers and normal guys who just love that biker lifestyle. So HAMC is both.
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JMich: So again, you project on others what you would do.
I do associate with a few local HAMC, though mostly through common friends. I've been on concerts where they provided security, traded jokes and insults with them, and I've seen how they act. The only time they will push back is if there is a chance they (or the club) will lose face. But attacking someone weaker than them is also going to make them lose face.
As for the Kung Fu master, he wouldn't kick your ass. The first thing they learn, as do Black Belts, is that you do not attack someone who can't defend himself. So no, he wouldn't kick your ass. He wouldn't physically assault you either. He would tell you that he is a black belt (or heavyweight champion, or equivalent), then ask you to stand down.
If you do assault him, he would take you down, but that would be all he would do. Be it with a chokehold, a single punch, or any other disarming technique. They will not do it to inflict harm (break bones, cause permanent damage), but they will take you down. And that comes from living with a black belt holder for the last 7 years or so.

People respond violently to threats. Most people don't perceive insults as threats, or respond to insults with insults. But the loudmouthed, insulting person is usually considered to act childish, and people prefer to ignore them.

Let me ask you this, if you are driving a car and I cut you off, am I a threat or a childish person? Would you honk at me, make a few gestures and let me go, after you vented of, or will you follow me around a few blocks, cutting me off whenever you can, riding my bumper just so I know you don't take any shit from anyone?
I doubt the HAMC you encountered were 1%ers and if they were, 1%ers must be different in Greece or all the TV shows I watched are full of shit. I'm not projecting on to others what I would do. I'm sharing with you my thoughts. And in my previous post to you I included this. "I have no personal experience with such people so I could be wrong. What I'm saying is based on what I've seen on TV(shows like Gangland) and what is written on some websites." If you read my previous post properly you would see I'm not projecting on other what I would do.

"People respond violently to threats. Most people don't perceive insults as threats, or respond to insults with insults. But the loudmouthed, insulting person is usually considered to act childish, and people prefer to ignore them."
Everyone is different. Some people are like this, some people are like that. There is a lot of people like me, who don't take insults, lightly.

"Let me ask you this, if you are driving a car and I cut you off, am I a threat or a childish person? Would you honk at me, make a few gestures and let me go, after you vented of, or will you follow me around a few blocks, cutting me off whenever you can, riding my bumper just so I know you don't take any shit from anyone?"
This depends on if I'm in a good mood or bad mood.
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keeveek: Maybe it's a cultural thing? We call women in Poland the beautiful sex, it's a very common saying.
Everything is cultural. One of the reasons, there is hostility between me and some people here is that me and these people have cultures that are very incompatible with each other. They don't like the way I'm behaving. But in my culture, the way I behave towards people is totally acceptable and people who don't like it are just over sensitive over PC people who are used to people only telling them what they want to hear as if everyone around them is customer service etc. Then people insult me because in their eyes, I'm misbehaving or being a huge douchebag by calling someone "crazy" even though I can back it up. In my eyes, my behavior was justified and feel I do not deserve this treatment from people so I insult them back. Sounds like the history of the world, doesn't it? Countries insulting each other, waging war against each other. That is why there will never be world peace... In many ways, GOG is like the world but instead of wars with missiles and tanks there is just insulting and downreping. LOL
Post edited May 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
Wow? Hope I didn't cause all this?
Post edited May 30, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: Wow? Hope I didn't cause all this?
Nah.
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langurmonkey: But in my culture, the way I behave towards people is totally acceptable and people who don't like it are just over sensitive over PC people who are used to people only telling them what they want to hear as if everyone around them is customer service etc. Then people insult me because in their eyes, I'm misbehaving or being a huge douchebag by calling someone "crazy" even though I can back it up. In my eyes, my behavior was justified and feel I do not deserve this treatment from people so I insult them back. Sounds like the history of the world, doesn't it?
Langur, you're not seeing the double standard you're engaging in here. When you say something and other people are offended or feel insulted, you cavalierly dismiss them as "overly sensitive" or "overly PC", yet when they do the same to you suddenly it's wrong. When you offend others, their feelings don't matter but when others offend you that's bad?

By your own logic Langur, how can you get upset? After all, they feel THEIR behaviour is justified and THEY don't deserve that kind of treatment from you, so they insult you back. You don't seem to care about other people's feelings but then demand people care about yours.

Do you not see this?
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langurmonkey: But in my culture, the way I behave towards people is totally acceptable and people who don't like it are just over sensitive over PC people who are used to people only telling them what they want to hear as if everyone around them is customer service etc. Then people insult me because in their eyes, I'm misbehaving or being a huge douchebag by calling someone "crazy" even though I can back it up. In my eyes, my behavior was justified and feel I do not deserve this treatment from people so I insult them back. Sounds like the history of the world, doesn't it?
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BlueMooner: Langur, you're not seeing the double standard you're engaging in here. When you say something and other people are offended or feel insulted, you cavalierly dismiss them as "overly sensitive" or "overly PC", yet when they do the same to you suddenly it's wrong. When you offend others, their feelings don't matter but when others offend you that's bad?

By your own logic Langur, how can you get upset? After all, they feel THEIR behaviour is justified and THEY don't deserve that kind of treatment from you, so they insult you back. You don't seem to care about other people's feelings but then demand people care about yours.

Do you not see this?
Because I don't accept their culture. I only accept mine. I think my culture is superior and will fight to death for my culture. And we are all guilty of this. You are guilty of this too. That is the point I'm trying to make. What is right and wrong entirely depends on your culture. And that is why there was so much hostility. So another point I should bring up is, communication is pointless with people who are of a culture too different from yours. Such communication will only lead to fighting. This is the conclusion I came to after all the fighting. Some people just can't get along with each other...cats and dogs...
Post edited May 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
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keeveek: Maybe it's a cultural thing? We call women in Poland the beautiful sex, it's a very common saying.
Same in France. We even say "the weak sex", but this one is less and less used, obviously.
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langurmonkey: communication is pointless with people who are of a culture too different from yours.
Communication with different cultures and different people is how we get exposed to new ideas, broaden our minds, and improve ourselves.
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langurmonkey: communication is pointless with people who are of a culture too different from yours.
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BlueMooner: Communication with different cultures and different people is how we get exposed to new ideas, broaden our minds, and improve ourselves.
And also leads to name calling, hatred, violence, genocide and wars. But I get what you are saying. There are Pros and Cons.
Post edited May 30, 2013 by langurmonkey
I love her videos, but it seems that I'm the only one...? Why is there so much hate speech in this thread?